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I mean, the problem is that Nick Offerman is too wholesome. Young guys are horny. They need role models who are also horny. But the message that is sent is "it is good to be a man, but only once you are 40 with a pot belly and a wife and kids and no sex drive." Or "it is okay to be a man, but if you want to be horny, you have to be gay". Or "it is okay to be a horny straight man, but only if you are so dumb and mockable as to be harmless."

Show me the man, fictional or not, who is straight, sexual, and not constantly the butt of the joke. Show me an example of where a man wanting to have sex for the sake of having sex - not to get a girlfriend or live happily ever after - is framed as a legitimate goal which should be supported by the people around him, and which is not seen as a farce.

I always have to push back against this pathologization narrative. The very obvious alternatives are:

(1) that these guys you are talking about would have easily fallen into the trap of the right wing manosphere if it had been available, because being unable to find a parter when your hormones are urging you to and when everyone else around you seems able to find one is intensely painful. But you wouldn't hear about it, since no one talks about it, because the least attractive thing you can do is talk about how you are frustrated by your lack of romantic success.

(2) the nerdy guys might just accept their lack of partners, but these days the demographic of unpartnered young men is significantly more diverse, and more likely to contain, let's say.... less discerning thinkers...

It's kind of like saying "back in my day, no one really cared about getting kicked in the head by a horse. Yeah, it happened, and it sucked, but it just wasn't a big deal. There wasn't the social stigma that getting kicked in the head by a horse was bad, or that you shouldn't get kicked in the head by a horse."

Judged by whom?

Right, but if they keep talking while the other person is trying to talk, that's rude.

Yeah, I mean, there is a solution. Liberalized zoning and Georgist tax policies. The problem is rarely that there is a lack of space to live - it is that that space is poorly utilized. And this is true because (1) it is illegal to build what people want where they want it in many places and (2) investors and homeowners speculate on land value without providing value to anyone else.

Yeah, it's weird and cringy how into it some adults are. I think part of it is status, though. Everyone knows Disney is expensive, so taking your family is a way to show off your status to everyone with the pics you take for social media.

BuT MUh ViolEnT RevOlUtiOn!!!

Well said. Some of the people who post here are just nuts. Or edgy teens. Keep fighting the good fight for actually having nuance and common sense.

I have not once had a friend ask me these sorts of questions. You need to make different friends.

Gift and a curse. Gift when some random person has a hilarious, crazy story. Curse because now it is infected with average people who are extremely materialistic, closed minded, and enchained by limiting self beliefs. So it quickly becomes a cesspool of hate, depression, and crab bucketing.

Rachel, who is in her 30s and lives in London, met her partner on the popular dating app Hinge, and was struck by his generosity. He insisted on buying her gifts and giving her cash to spend. She thought her now ex-partner was a “normal, decent guy”.

Yeah....

Yeah, on paper I'm a mgtow. After about 2 seconds I was like "wait, these people are losers." Turns out I'm a relationship anarchist.

No, because women can get their sexual needs more or less without trouble. A male sex robot owned by a woman would make me feel the same way though, similar to the man's-arm-shaped pillows. It is sad, because they can't get a their emotional needs for intimacy fulfilled and are resorting to hollow physical proxies