Talisker

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[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Does it? Or does it boil down to whether or not you are willing to rubber stamp the death of your loved ones.

When it’s theoretical gamesmanship people like you are more than willing to act like dispassionate chess masters but I have a hard time believing that if it was your family getting killed you would be so cavalier.

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Easy to say when it’s not your family getting slaughtered.

But we all know you’re a paragon of rationality who would enthusiastically vote for an administration who has promised to kill your family because your love of lesser evilism outweighs anything else.

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Probably not. But it doesn’t include your consent at the very least.

Maybe you’re a perfectly objective person who can still vote for your families execution. But I think most people would struggle with it, if they’re being truly honest with themselves.

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (26 children)

Your vote is your consent.

Imagine for a minute that your perfect political candidate was running. The only catch is that if they win they are promising to personally execute your family in front of you. The other guy is gonna kill your family too so everyone tells you to stop being such a single issue voter and vote for the lesser evil.

Do you still vote for them? Or do you refuse to participate in the execution of your family?

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Green Arrow - Yo La Tengo

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Extending Russia, Rand Corporation 2019

The United States could also become more vocal in its support for NATO membership for Ukraine... While NATO’s requirement for unanimity makes it unlikely that Ukraine could gain membership in the foreseeable future, Washington’s pushing this possibility could boost Ukrainian resolve while leading Russia to redouble its efforts to forestall such a development.

Expanding U.S. assistance to Ukraine, including lethal military assistance, would likely increase the costs to Russia, in both blood and treasure, of holding the Donbass region. More Russian aid to the separatists and an additional Russian troop presence would likely be required, leading to larger expenditures, equipment losses, and Russian casualties. The latter could become quite controversial at home, as it did when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR3000/RR3063/RAND_RR3063.pdf

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

We want Israel to win and we want Ukraine to be an expensive quagmire for Russia.