HalfSalesman

Motherfucker you started by asking me why I thought I was so smart and you can't even muster the concentration to read my response. Unbelievable.

Yikes. Relax, brother.

Relaxing seems more or less impossible given the state of the world and in particular the state of the country I live in.

I have no angle. I simply inquired into your assessment of our situation.

You asked me a question that was clearly implying an attack on my character. If that wasn't your intention I think you phrased your post egregiously poorly.

The reason I ask is because I see quite a number of people saying that it’s “everyone else’s fault for being immoral and stupid”, and I believe we should be looking more inward, or at least assigning fault to the ones who are responsible (the “powers that be if you will) instead of pointing the finger at our fellow brothers and sisters.

Inward: I know I have absolutely no desire to participate in a civil war, or experience fascism and the death of democracy in the US. I worked hard to try and help bring about an election result that would prevent dooming the earth.

Powers that be: You mean conservative/centrist democrats? My hatred for them is very intense. But they aren't people who choose to, through inaction, allow fascism to win. They just legitimately and unironically thought centrism and status quo politics would win them the election. They're greedy, arrogant, and retarded but they thought they were going to stop fascism with more status quo liberalism.

There are a few staunch centrists that have even admitted that they should have moved leftward. Even that fucking piece of shit James Carville admitted to that. To bad its too late. Stupid fucking losers.

The non-voters demonstrated actual apathy towards the possibility of fascism winning. I don't know that I can really forgive them, my disgust for "I don't care who fascism hurts" is too intense to worry about how smug and also dumb liberals are.

Now, would the democrats have tried left populism if they saw it was their only way to win? Probably. It certainly seemed like Harris early in her campaign was moving in that direction before the democratic consultants showed up and they started wasting their time courting moderate republicans and pushing a weak watered down message.

But, this is just my opinion. And you are entitled to yours.

We are also entitled to critique opinions. Letting opinions be spouted without challenge has consequences. Though I'll concede I don't know how much it matters anymore to me considering how doomer I am now.

If you want to discuss further, there is no need for the ad hominem attacks 🙂.

I wasn't doing ad hominem, I was impugning your intentions and suggesting you were bad faith.

What's your angle? Insecurity or propaganda? Trying to guilt trip me for having a negative evaluation of the average person?

Maybe you aren't part of the majority of people I think of as moronic, I don't know you in particular, but the question you are asking sounds like maybe you are worried that you would be. TBH, you probably aren't significantly worse than average by the mere metric of being able to read and write, depressing knowing how many functionally illiterate people there are.

Of course, go ahead and think I'm actually the stupid one if it makes you feel better, I literally don't care about that. I care about becoming smarter and more correct perhaps, not what you think of my intellect now.

Its arguable that its better to define them by the intent of the ideology rather than just their outcomes.

Because most people are either stupid, evil, or stupid and evil.

I don't know what the solution is, I can only hope its mostly just the "extreme ignorance" type of stupidity and not evil or "willing ignorance" stupidity and after experiencing the suffering they've enabled for themselves that they put 2 and 2 together and things maybe recover partially or enough to prevent the end of human civilization as we know it.

Are you sure that's not some kind of kink of yours?

I'm not sure what you mean. But I suspect that is cope.

Hes doing exactly what he wanted to do as president.

I think honestly another way to put it is that pain and suffering are merely unpleasant signals intended to actually prevent you from dying. Death itself is a lovecraftian horror.

I think I'll take the unpleasant signals.

Shit, have I run into someone more misanthropic than I am right now? Neat.

Fine, and the the innocent people on it. Jesus fucking Christ.

My point was that Earth itself is just an object with things living on it.

I might be aggressively fucking angry at like 90% of the voting eligible populace in America but there are a ton of other people that don't fit into that category that don't hold my ire.

Its too bad I don't care about the rock we're floating around in space on and mostly care about me and my loved ones.