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Most of the climate change predictions I've heard in my lifetime have talked about stuff that would happen by 2050 or 2100. It's always been bullshit, just a way of pushing out the consequences beyond a timeframe we can actually conceive of effectively. In reality this shit is already hitting us and accelerating hard.

It's amazing how the human race realize the shit it put itself in only when it is a fraction of a second from hitting the wall at high speed. It's like that every single time.

If it doesn't hit in my lifetime it will be soon after, which is one the reasons I choose to not have kids.

I used to think the more apparent and devastating outcomes of climate change were bound to hit long after I passed away, but now I'm not so sure.

Too many people thinking like that is exactly why we are where we are today. And why it will continue to get worse.

Those of us who actually care about the world our children and grandchildren will have to live in have been trying to get some large scale action for decades, and we're tired of beating our heads against a brick wall.

That's a pretty weak take. Do you know how profitable it is to hire a short-gain CEO, pump his stock, sell before the inevitable crash and follow him to his next venture? Immensely so.

Think how great the world would be if everyone did that, jumping from sunken venture to sunken venture, burning through any and all good will, until the only thing that still has worth is the planet you're on, but even that is nothing because Mars is the next frontier you can sink our money into.

Think before you speak so poorly of those better than yourself

How about we go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over.

If voting worked, we would have solved this issue decades ago. You can vote for whomever you want, but at the end, no matter what they promise, they always end up doing nothing at all, because they are elected by using big oil donations.

Only a self-organized revolution can stop this madness, people in some nations are already blocking oil tankers and oil rigs. We can't win by only voting, you can vote for a day every few years, but we need to fight this everyday. Take turns blocking streets so no oil driven trucks and cars pass, only this will make an effect.

Honestly voting now is to little too late. The Overton window isn't anywhere near the point of allowing actually meaningful change and the 4-5 year cycle of voting is too slow. If we really want to solve anything, the change should be systemic. Still, voting is important.

I think its a statistical loss if we rely on denocracy. The stupid far outnumber the rational.

Shit my ultra conservative parents literally left Arizona because it just kept getting hotter every season. Yet they continue to deny climate change is manmade and a real threat to the global ecology.

Gotta love the pentecostals "it's all just the end times!" Oh yeah, like it was when Paul wrote his letters, and like it was in the 1840's when the millerites did their "math," and like in the other dozen predictions since then that have all not come to pass.

I don't know how many thousands of years can be the "last days" but something tells me it's just whenever an individual who believes in it is currently living.

You mean they had a financial incentive to partake?

Your example just shows how economics incentives are designed to work, but that money does come from somewhere.

I'd love to get solar but it's not economically viable to encur 20k expenses that will need over twenty years to pay off when that money can be used elsewhere

If someone gave me a Tesla I'd love it but I really don't have the cash to get a car right now and even if I did the price of teslas and most electrics are so high it's just not an option.

People think he solution here is to remove cheaper options but that won't work it will just keep people holding on to beaters far longer.

If the economics make sense to change people will change but trying to shake people or force people to make economically disadvantage choices will never work long term

My wife got a used Prius for 13K or 17k a couple years ago, it'll be more expensive now I believe, but the thing is most people don't have 13k or 17k to spend on a car. If people can't scrape together 500 dollars from their savings in an emergency, they aren't going to be able to get a hybrid or electric car for a very long time, and all legislation that tries to push people in that direction benefits the rich, and penalizes the poor when they remove options the poor can afford.

And that's why the billionaires are investing in spaceships... Seriously though, they are really buying "doomsday" properties to ride it out.

Well in reality there isn't much we can do as normal folk to reverse or slow down the impending doom of global warming.

It's all in the hands of the big corporations that we all know are the biggest contributors, to the whole debacle. They are not going to change a damn thing because is all about the extreme profiteering.

I think the straw thing is much more about trash than it is about combating climate change. Plastic getting into the eco system and building up in landfills is a big problem too, but it's a different and also important problem.

Or, this will sound crazy but hear me out, we put a giant ice cube in the ocean.

Unfortunately climate change makes things more turbulent and extreme on both ends of the spectrum.