Hundreds? We have written records of war there from 1350BC. The area was probably first settled 10,000 years ago. I'm sure there would be 8500 years more records of war had writing been invented... and we didn't keep losing the records in wars.
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Even longer then. Why does it seem like people are surprised about yet another attack? It's not really new.
No confirmation, but whoever is writing the stories (yes, a lot of organizations) might have ulterior motives in covering it.
-- attacks might not be new, but the scope is
-- Israel Intelligence is usually pretty good, but preparations must have been going on for months, involving thousands of people. How did they not figure something out.
-- there is a wall, military forces. This is heavily guarded, but that was completely ineffective
-- Israel has very good missile defense. Never before have they had the volume to overwhelm that defense
-- things had seemed peaceful lately, and Israel was trying to gain closer ties with some countries in the region
Hamas launched a devastating surprise attack the likes of which have never been seen here in Israel. They murdered over 600 Israelis (mostly civilians) in one day, and captured around 100 (mainly civilians, including children, women, and elderly). Watch the videos, it's nuts. Over 260 bodies were recovered from the site of a large nature party that was going on at the time.
yes, thats a fact. but are you really surprised by thaz? Israel is fighting against Palestina for a very long time now, obviously Palestina therefore becomes more extrem and hateful against Israel. Hamas is a reaction to a conflict that Israel kinda ignited! both sides are at fault for the stuff happening right now.
The modern Isreal-Palestine conflict began just after WWII when Britan, who took the land during the war, decided it wasn't worth colonizing and somehow accidentally sold the same parcel of land to both Isreal and Palestine. Oops! They then asked the newly created UN to fix the problem and they drew a jigsaw puzzle map that both Isreal and Palestine hated. Isreal then immediately occupied most of the disputed land by force and the UN did nothing about it.
I don't think people are surprised about attacks killing large amounts of civilians in this area. I think people are more surprised world leaders have mostly decided to act like nothing is wrong with the situation and there's no need to fix or change anything. In any other area where things like this occur, the countries involved are usually heavily sanctioned or chastised by other world leaders.
Probably less of "accident" and more of "not my land, not my problem"
As surprising as wildfires, floods or migration. All of these things happen off and on, and still they’re reported, discussed and sometimes combatted.
Because nobody called ahead of time to let anyone know.
Oh. Ok that is fair. 2030 there will be a conflict there. Just a heads-up.
I'm never surprised at the middle east's violent co-existence. They've been at it for ten thousand years. They wouldn't know what to do without it. Hatfields and McCoys? Ireland and England? Wannabes.
Fuck everything about religion and the zealots that run it. These people have been killing each other forever so please for once do it right and be done with it, or wake the fuck up and be adults. Fucking pick one.
The rest of the world could either do the same or butt the hell out.
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A hundred years, and no, not quite. The myth of them being at war for hundreds of years is spread mostly by evangelical Christians who want to sow divide.
They’ve mostly been in a “peaceful” state recently where Israel has been treating Palestinians as a sort of worse apartheid state. This has allowed for build up of a terroristic group (Hamas) that performed a massive surprise attack, some believe with the backing of Iran. Hamas is basically the ISIS of Palestine. This attack was a surprise because Israel has been relying heavily on technology to spy on and suppress any threats, but Hamas planned their attacks without technology. If Hamas wins, things won’t necessarily be better for Palestine, they’ll just have different oppressors.
Israel is definitely bad here, but Hamas isn’t great. Everyone doing the fighting sucks, the civilians are the only good people involved in this and they’re being massacred. Everyone here deserves better.
......... Ok look the war is between the Jewish and Palestinian communities. The Jewish community only moved back in the 1940s post ww2