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A quick search suggests that the average American uses about 1.3 pounds of honey per year. If I'm 40 years old, and guess that I might live to be 80, that's only 52 pounds of honey, which I could easily buy in bulk. Honey doesn't expire, and even assuming the price doesn't skyrocket from bee die-offs, inflation alone will make the price go up over time.

Does it make sense to buy all the rest of the honey I'll ever need for the rest of my life, right now?

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[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Once Honey 2.0 comes out in 20 years, your stock in Honey 1.0 will be worthless :(

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

Just crush up Viagra in it and sell it as sex honey.

[–] SeanBrently@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Having had a 50lb bucket of honey I can tell you that honey use goes up dramatically because you say to yourself "well I have so much I can just use it for this, and that, and a little more on my toast..." and then friends come around asking for a little here and a little there. Unless you can be super disciplined in a way that I cannot, 50 pounds will not last more that a couple years.

[–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 200 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Beekeeper here. I won't comment on whether or not you should. But since I know a little about storing honey, here are some things to consider:

If you do this, you need to make sure it's sealed in airtight containers.

Part of what gives honey its antimicrobial properties (and long shelf life) is its low moisture content. But it's hygroscopic and will pull moisture directly from the air if exposed. After it pulls enough moisture, it can ferment, grow bacteria, or otherwise not be fit for normal consumption.

Also, honey can crystallize over time. This doesn't mean it's bad, but in order to re-liquify it, you'll need to heat it. So consider your storage container size and material carefully.

That said, 52 lbs is less than a 5 gallon bucket full (at roughly 12 lbs / gallon), so it shouldn't take an incredible amount of space if you choose to do it. Or, in smaller portions, a quart mason jar will hold about 3 lbs. So 2 cases (12 jars each) would exceed your quantity requirements, and be more manageable than a 60lb bucket.

Also if you can buy it in bulk at wholesale prices, it will be cheaper. Retail can be anywhere from $5-$20 per pound (depending on what/where) whereas the last I checked, wholesale prices were more like $1.50 - $3.50 per pound, depending on quantity.

Hope that helps.

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Does anyone else REALLY want this crazy honey buyer to get his honey from this knowledgeable beekeeper? It's a Lemmy matchmaking story!

[–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I've really scaled back my number of hives and now only get enough honey to keep my immediate family supplied.

But I appreciate the sentiment.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 3 days ago

But surely you know another beekeeper who is on Lemmy? There must be 1s of you!

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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i would not consider buying this much honey, personally, but i really appreciate your comment. it is so informative.

thank you! (sincere)

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I'll add that if you have all that honey, you might also eat more of it than you'd initially planned and run out sooner. Personally, I would start putting spoonfuls in my tea, using honey instead of jam, maybe experimenting with baking...

[–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where do you recommend wholesale purchases from?

I'd start with local apiaries and/or small/mid scale beekeepers.

The trick will be finding one that will let you buy a smaller quantity (relatively speaking - you probably don't want multiple 55 gallon drums of honey) at near-wholesale prices.

This might be tough, because small scale (hobbyist or side-gig) beekeepers often charge a premium because they're not producing a lot, and value the hard work they put into what they did get.

On the flip side, larger outfits will likely already have contracts with a reseller, and may not want to bother with selling a mere 50-100 lbs as a one-off.

A good place to ask around might be a local beekeeping club/meetup. It would at least let you meet some of your local beeks, and maybe determine which are retail-only and which do wholesale.

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[–] masto@lemmy.masto.community 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All the honey I’ve ever bought has crystallized before I could get through the small bottle. Yeah, you can heat it, it’s a pain to have to deal with when I just want to use it. I’d rather buy what I need fresh.

One of our local honey dudes does 8 oz honey jars that are wider than they are tall. I like those.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honey doesn't expire but it crystalises giving it a different texture. You'd also have to check in on what happens to decades old honey

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Not a lot. there was some honey in the tomb of an Egyptian mummy and they are it when they excavated him.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

If storage space were free and limitless, maybe. Honey keeps forever in principle but that doesn’t mean your barrel could never be contaminated, broken into by bugs or rodents, etc.

Personally, I enjoy buying different varieties of honey, especially as it’s a craft which has been getting more popular and really taking off in “local food” culture. I don’t want to commit to a barrel of any one thing, and I’m also fairly sure that the honey I could buy in a barrel is not going to be the one I’d most enjoy, but some over filtered, over processed stuff.

So I say nay.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Haven't seen this mentioned yet so:

The honey may not expire, but the container you store it in could. I'd be very concerned about plastic disintegrating and/or leeching into the honey. Glass would be better for that, but it's also really heavy compared to plastic, so you'd need more, smaller containers instead of one giant tub.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would agree with you but I'm like 25% microplastic (and 8% regular plastic) so I figure what harm will be done has already been done.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Glass would also be better for heating it to melt crystals.

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The bee die-offs, that one typically hears about, has nothing to do with honey bees. Honey bees don't show any signs of going extinct. Its may of the other bee species, which are dying off. And that is bad because of the species liking different specific plants, which often rely on this bee species to be pollinated.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some of this is because domesticated bees are filling the roles wild bees take. Some is temperature based, like bees just die at something like 55 or 60 degrees C. Hooray climate collapse!

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah - a lot of “save the bees” narratives omit the fact that honey bees are not indigenous to the US and displaced some species.

We should be just as concerned for wasps, who are essential to pollination.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i was with you until you got to the murder flies.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Baeus are absolutely adorable though, how could anyone hate a chubby wingless wasp?

Cookoo wasps are gorgeous.

Many solitary wasp species incapacitate and lay eggs in spiders - the spider bodies make tasty snacks for the babies. If you don’t like spiders - the enemy of your enemy?

It’s really only the social wasps that are aggressive though - which makes sense. They will sting and defend their hive with their lives, because that’s where their sisters and nieces live! But all wasp species are essential. We need paper wasps for pollination - even if a Polistes sting will ruin your day.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I buy a 5 gallon bucket of honey once every 6ish years. It's one of the only sweeteners my wife can have so we use it in everything that needs a sweeter taste. I fill small 20oz jars with it and seal the bucket back up. It's a good investment because you can get it much much cheaper. I buy mine from Sleeping bear farms in Michigan.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Is it dangerous? What if the bears wake up?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago

obviously you have to wait for them to go lookin' for pic-a-nik baskets then.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

They hibernate for quite a while. Plenty of time to steal their honey jars.

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[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sure you could. But I'll offer a different perspective

All honey tastes different from different producers and areas, you'll be missing out on some wonderful honey flavors if you buy that much in bulk. If it's purely for sweetening, sure fine, do it. But if you want the flavor of honey, check out a farmers market and see what you'd be missing out on with bulk.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I've also heard that honey helps to confer resistance to allergies to things that were in the area where the honey was made. As such, OP might be missing out on environmental defense by not diversifying.

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[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 18 points 4 days ago

As a kid we had a neighbor that ran a bee-brothel and had hives all over the region. Since his hives would just sit on un-used corners of farmland, he would offer some honey annually as ‘rent’. (He was also generous with his boat so a couple waterskiing trips were also on the table).

We (2 parents, 4 kids) would get a 5 gallon can of honey every other year or so.

That has been over 45 years now and my father is still working through that supply. We put it in sealed mason jars and it has remained good all this time.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Honey can expire if not stored right.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

God damn that works on so many different levels!

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

A quick search suggests that the average American uses about 1.3 pounds of honey per year.

I think this is a case of people not eating honey and bringing the average way down.
My current SO puts honey in her tea and goes though about a pound and a half per month or about 18lbs per year.
It might sound like a lot but 24oz over an average of 30 days is less than an Oz of honey per day or 2 tablespoons across 4 cups of tea every day.

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[–] eatham@aussie.zone 12 points 4 days ago

Do you actually eat 1.3 pounds a year tho? If so, then it does.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

I clearly use more than the average amount of honey then. Most of it to make mead.

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you really want to carry your lifetime supply of honey around with you every time you move apartment?

What other foodstuffs are you going to buy your lifetime supply of? Dried goods? Tins? You could get yourself a winnebago and fill it with all your lifetime's worth of food or something, which would make lugging it all around with you forever easier. Just hope nobody nicks it.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Carry it around? You just find a tree. Nice hollow tree and hide it in there. Everyone knows it's how you store honey.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago (10 children)

You're likely better off investing the same amount of money.

Buying it all now is betting that inflation will be higher than your investment return over the next 40 years. That's not a good bet unless the world literally collapses.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 21 points 4 days ago

So it's a good bet, got it.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Lifetime supply of honey for me is one fairly small jar, except that one time I had a weird craving for honey in the comb, so I ordered a square of it and ate it like a sandwich. I guess I saw bears doing it and thought it looked tasty.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Honey can change consistency, depending on how it is packaged and stored. In addition, you have to consider the cost and risk of storing it. But if you think the bees are going to die off, it could be a lucrative investment.

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