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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 172 points 2 weeks ago (125 children)

This is completely fucking shocking. I hope all the Uncommitted folks are proud of themselves.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

EtHnIc ClEaNsInG iS bEtTeR tHaN gEnOcIdE.

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 146 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)
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[–] alexc@lemmy.world 121 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

History will not be kind to either Netanyahu, or the Biden/Trump presidencies.

This will mean fuck all the to Palestinians who became “displaced persons” just so the Israeli’s can have their own Lebensraum.

The rest of the world needs to get off its ass and ensure Gaza is rebuilt on Israel’s shekel for the Palestinians like a modern day Marshall plan. And ideally prosecute a couple of people for actively advancing genocide.

[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The rest of the world needs to get off its ass and ensure Gaza is rebuilt on Israel’s shekel for the Palestinians like a modern day Marshall plan. And ideally prosecute a couple of people for actively advancing genocide.

Except remember, those are America's shekels being spent.

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[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 101 points 2 weeks ago (60 children)

I'm sure the Palestinians are grateful the Democrats didn't win.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But they didn't promise to stop it, so voting for fascism was the only alternative!

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

So…. Are both sides still the same? Asking for a friend.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 66 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

In 1940, the Nazis' plan was to relocate all Jews to Madagascar.
Just 2 years later, they started exterminating them systematically.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago (107 children)

Hey at least the genocide will be over! Trump is so much better than Kamala on this!

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I’m calling it, this era will be worse than the bush era when it comes to American atrocities.

What the fuuuck, the United States of America is going to own a part of the Gaza Strip. Are we restarting colonialism?!

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[–] FriendBesto@futurology.today 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In fairness, this is BS. A leaked Israeli paper from early 2024 stated that that IDF and the Israeli's government overall goal WAS to remove all people from Gaza. Once and for all, if they could get away with it. The fact they systematically destroyed whole towns and places of culture educates us and reinforces that this was the plan all along. Trump is an Israeli puppet, nothing changes there, but the removal of people and the destruction of Gaza was the Israeli plan all along. This was known.

It is THEIR land. Their home. Why should they be shipped anywhere? That is an outright crime.

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

Accelerationism has made things worse for everyone. Now we have a US president who has declared his intention to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip of Palestinians. If you want things to get better then you have to act in a way that is useful to that end. That means voting for parties that are to the left of fascists and that have a chance of winning. In the US, that's the Democrats.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Americans making this about Trump vs Kamala is getting really really annoying. I mean, we get it, you are pissed off at each other. We've read the same arguments dozens of times already, and at this point it is getting extremely tired. It sucks the oxygen out of every conversation. Is this what the discourse is going to be around Palestine and Israel the next four years?

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, maybe Israelis should leave Palestinians country instead.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, I'm sure this would all be very sad for Palestinians but the important thing is that Genocide Joe learned his lesson.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago

Geez americans are stupid

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

I'd ask protest voters if they're feeling pretty stupid right now, but the truth is they never gave a flying fuck about Palestinians. They only cared about feeling morally superior.

Trash humans.

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[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

The amount of hatred against phantom leftists that on the one hand lost the Dems the vote and on the other were too weak to have their demands considered is crazy.

No, these people didn't lose you the vote. They don't even exist in this ambivalent form. It was everyday citizens that heard Democrats push the same racist border talking points Trump spewed last election and went "Hm, if even the Dems say this is a problem, I'll vote the party that talked about how evil Migrants were for decades, the GOP". It's people tired of increasingly struggling to make ends meet and the Dems saying everything will stay the same, while Trump promised them change. We know that he just means destroying the last remnants of social security nets for poor people and everything that stands in the way for oligarchs making kaijulllian dollars. But people are stupid and desperate. Why can't the Democratic party be held to a higher standard than whatever this is?

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you have absolutely no empathy for fellow human beings, no sense of morality, no concern with topping off a holocaust with a cultural genocide, no concern with what anyone wants for themselves …… I guess that describes the orange guy

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wellllll technically those who voted against Kamala to stop israeli genocide got what they wanted. Israel no longer has to genocide Palestinians.

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Evangelicals support this message. Forcing the end times one way or another.

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

Single-issue voters, when EVERYTHING was at stake, deserve all the hate they get, but are too stupid to understand. The worst kind of trumpers, ones that don't think they are.

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[–] adm@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago

It's right to be angry. I don't have an answer. I think few people realize that most genocides are actually successful and forgotten.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt

So trump advocating for illegal immigration to Jordan and Egypt? Didn't he just throw a fit claiming Canada and Mexico are supporting that to the USA?

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 26 points 2 weeks ago

It's simple: He can't tell the difference between Palestinians, Jordanians and Egyptians, and therefore neither can they.

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[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Wow it's almost like this was predictable. Good thing all those liberals who didn't vote for Harris could not have possibly known Trump would be even worse....

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[–] procrastitron@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump is full of shit.

There's no other place for the Palestinians to go.

Egypt and Jordan aren't going to take Palestinians from Gaza, so all of his talk is just bluster meant to appeal to Israeli right wingers.

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[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago

Does anyone remember what fueled many of the Al Qaeda operatives hate for America? It had nothing to do with the brutal suppression of Palestinians, right? ...right?

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