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I don't know if I'm going crazy but looking at the current situation in the world ... please tell me that I'm overexagurating

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[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 1 points 38 minutes ago

So, WW3 won't happen until the oligarchy says it's time. Not sure why now would be the time, but I suppose it could be. There's like a billion people in the world making a dollar a day, a few billion people only making a few dollars a day... That's a few billion dollars per day the oligarchy almost certainly thinks belongs in their pocket instead. So I could see them continuing to squeeze the world for every last drop of wealth, which I think will cause unrest in a lot of places. Add climate change to that and I think things just get bad everywhere for most people. Obviously the oligarchy will just go to their islands, yachts, bunkers until a few billion are dead and they can pop back out with their private armies ready to "save" the world.

A lot of people think they need us to buy their trinkets, but the entire consumer middle class is only like 100 years old, and I think was only designed to keep us distracted while they plundered the world. Now that a small handful of people own everything, and soon enough robots and AI will replace most human labor, it's mission accomplished and we can go back to feudalism where they are gods and everyone else is slaves.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

No thanks. Appreciate the offer though, very kind of you.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

I would say world war is still years away, but if SK in your name means slovakia then comfort yourself that you might find yourself in the early BRICS block vs US empire wars, so hopefully it'll be over without too much war in your country soon.

Could already be going. We didn't name them World War 1 and World War 2 until after they were over

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I think that the true world war 3 will not be nations against nations, but citizens against their own nations. The stage is set for an actual paradigm shift or system annihilation. We will not support civilization if it doesn't change, either the people destroy the pyramid or the pyramid will destroy the world.

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I kinda doubt that will happen. For instance, look at Venezuela: Venezuelans are beyond fed up with Maduro's dictatorship, but there's nothing they can do against the government forces.

Governments will do anything they can to prevent a paradigm change.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Is it really a dictatorship?

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

What revolution really takes is soldier's that are protecting the system being unwilling to kill when the "rebels" are their family and friends.

If soldiers have love for the people and see common cause more than they fear their leaders then the leader can fall.

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 1 points 9 hours ago

The world as we know it

Nah, there won't be WW3. Instead we get countries sabotaging each other via hacking critical infrastructure, proxy wars, propaganda, trade wars.

I doubt there will ever be a direct "hot war" between the top five nuclear powers ever again.

WW3 is not what's gonna kill people, climate change is more likely gonna be humanity's downfall.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 78 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

please tell me that I’m overexagurating

You're overexaggerating.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Mach mal nicht so'n Fass auf.

Einfach locker durch die Hose atmen.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Man kann jetzt noch schneller ekk'n

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

In 2001 there was that 9/11 thing and it sounded like WW3 had just started. Turns out, it didn't. Well, lots of things did happen as a result of it, but WW3 wasn't one of them. Soon after that, USA was involved in a number if wars in the middle east and it felt like WW3 had just started. Again, it didn't. Some time around 2010s the tension between North Korea and South Korea was getting pretty intense, and a friend of mine started talking WW3... As usual, WW3 didn't start.

At the moment, the situation in Ukraine feels just like all the other major incidents, but we'll see how it works out. If you expose your mind to tabloid journalism, it begins to feel like the entire world is about to explode. History has a tendency of repeating itself, so I suggest reading about the things that lead to WW1 and WW2. Once, you've done that, you'll begin to pay attention to certain signs and start ignoring most of the nonsense tabloids keep writing about.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

That's just survivorship bias, you didn't live through the worlds where all those things escalated into flat out war, you dimension skipping hippie.

I’m a very picky hippie when it comes to dimensions.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 25 points 15 hours ago

The situation today is nowhere near as bad as the Cold War.

Think of it this way. All of the 0.01%ers in china, USA and Russia share the same tastes and values. Think any of them are really hot to blow up their nice places on the Rivera?

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

No. It’s bad for the economy.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

To the wealthy, volatility is opportunity. Yeah, the market will go down for a while, and later it'll go back up. Billionaires will cash in both ways.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

The number one thing I've learned through the last several decades is that if it's bad for the economy, no one will do it. Greed is the number one driver of everything right now. Maybe that will change, but I doubt it. Look at all the positive progress we try to make, it's stopped the second anyone rich would lose any money.

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[–] ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You could not be more wrong

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's bad for certain parts of the economy and it is dangerous for current rulers.

[–] ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

Economy is cyclical, always either heading into a recession or coming out of a recession. A capitalist society requires constant money flow for expansion which is why interest rates are lowered during recessive times to stimulate expenditure and raised during peak to control expansion. World wars put spending into overdrive.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I highly doubt that WWIII will happen (within the next few years), however I forsee the next several years to not be peacful. There will be several (regional/civil) despites that will most likley occur and the chances of any of them escalating is highly unlikley. Here are the conflicts I forsee:

  • Continued Syrian Civil War: wont be pretty but escalation is unlikely
  • Palestinian occupation: Will absolutely continue to be horrific but none of the neighboring Arab counties care enough to escalate (or risk US aid)
  • Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.
  • India/China border dispute: They'll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely
  • US/Canada/Mexico/Greenland conflict: Who knows tbh, most likley Trump is running off his mouth as always
  • China/Taiwan: I severly doubt it, in addition the US is moving microchip manufacturing to the US so strategic value may loosen

Worst case scenario here is a full blown war between the EU and Russia, the US likley wont get involved (Trump doesnt care about Europe) and neither will China (both counties might send aid respectively). It would probrally end with Russia surrendering followed by them loosing no land and maybe a regime change plus some political reforms.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.

How do you imagine the EU will do that exactly? The EU has no military industrial capacity to speak of, it doesn't have access to cheap energy, and it's becoming politically unstable. A far more likely scenario here is that the EU starts breaking up, and nationalist parties start realigning their countries towards Russia because the US will leave EU to hang.

I would imagine that if Russian agression continues than nationalist parties would loose steam

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

Anything could happen of course, but I don't see this as a likely scenario myself. What's more likely is that we return to bloc competition similar to what we saw during the Cold War. Except this time it's going to be G7 against the BRICS.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've been expecting WW3 since 1983.

[–] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 4 points 14 hours ago

Only Wiseman in the thread.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 12 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

No.

Russia (the current primary aggressor) is on the brink of a banking system collapse. It doesn't have the money to wage war on a bigger scale than it already is.

China is far more interested in trade than hostilities.

The middle east has been a tinder box for over a hundred years. I don't see it dragging outsiders into it and hopefully we have a respite coming.

Central Asia has tension between India and Pakistan, but that's nothing new. India could piss off China or the reverse, and if that kicked off the loss of life could be on a scale that would be unprecedented but still I think it wouldn't drag the west in.

The US has joined the party

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Star Trek says that we shouldn't expect World War 3 until 2026, so we've got 1 more year to live to the fullest before then.

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago
[–] iii@mander.xyz 11 points 16 hours ago

It's reminiscent of the cold war.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

My vibes based analysis says atleast in the next ten years

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 15 hours ago

According to the Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, we are closer to nuclear war now than ever in history. Closer than when boomers were doing school duck and cover drills.

2024 Doomsday Clock Statement: A moment of historic danger: It is still 90 seconds to midnight

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

No but there will be wars.

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Current circumstances do seem worrisome. But, we've been threatened with that for all my life, and even decades before I was born. So who knows. MAD is a certain thing and I don't think entire countries are unstable enough to let that happen. I'm not really sure what Putin is getting at threatening all of Europe. The situation with China and Taiwan doesn't look good, with the US pledge of taking Taiwan's side for independence.

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t expect it, but I don’t rule it out either.

Just a warning for everyone who isn’t worried: you expect that the leaders of the world act logically and like adults. That might be a mistake.

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[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 7 points 15 hours ago
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