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Three separate places I went to at 8 in the morning. Gas station, dunkin' donuts, and then a convenience store. All of them, trash is full. People wonder why they litter in the USA, there's nowhere to throw away trash when you're out. It's unbelievable People can just go to work and choose not to do their job anymore. That people see this and they don't have any problem with it, no interest at all to keep things neat and tidy and clean. Nope.

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[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 266 points 5 days ago (4 children)

In Japan it's almost impossible to find a trash can on the streets and yet people don't litter. The problem is the culture centered around consumerism and waste.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 165 points 5 days ago (4 children)

This. Throwing your trash on the ground because you can't find a trash can amounts to childish entitlement in my eyes.

No trash cans in the forest, is OP saying they just litter all through nature when they go camping?

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 66 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I fill up a trash bag every time I go hiking

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 24 points 5 days ago

I once dropped a water bottle out of my backpack, and couldn't find it when I retraced my hike, but I did start noticing tons of trash everywhere.

So I started keeping a trash bag in my backpack, and filling a small bag every time I hike.

I may not have found my bottle, but I'll make sure I clean up more than I left every time I'm out.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they just litter all through nature when they go camping

Many americans do just that, yes. :'(

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Most don't.

[–] spookex@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Funnily enough that's where I find most of the litter in Japan, like, if you go to any non-main road that goes through a bit of forest, you will see signs threatening fines for littering, with a bunch of trash tossed in that exact area.

I have seen cans, bottles, ACs, TVs, baby car seats, bags, and general household trash. Also found a golf club once that I actually brought home because I thought that it was neat. And this is only along a single stretch of road that is only like 1km long.

So Japan isn't some miracle society that doesn't litter, it's just that they do it someplace that is somewhat out of sight.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

It's somewhat comforting to know that no matter how far out in the wild you go you eventually find signs of humanity.

The fact those signs are pieces of trash that someone either left or blew in on the wind is depressing.

[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago (20 children)

With respect to Japan, there's definitely a culture difference, but I don't think it's the consumerism/waste culture. There's so much excess packaging in Japanese food products.

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[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 130 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Get what you pay for. The minimum wage is still 7.25 federally. I can’t believe employers just choose not to pay livable wages.

Lose me with this “nobody wants to work anymore” bullshit. Nobody wants to pay anymore.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

It's another true half statement the middle management refuses to complete. "Nobody wants to work anymore for the wages offered for these types of jobs". Same old story as middle management accepting "the customer is always right" (and entitling shitty customers) without finishing it with "in terms of market trends"

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[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 81 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Or, hear me out... carry it until you find one with room? If finding full trash cans "forces" you to litter, that says more about you being an entitled piece of shit than it does about anything else.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"I couldn't find a single vacant public toilet, so I did what any sensible person would do and took a shit in the middle of the sidewalk." —OP, analogously

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[–] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Especially in the US where people drive everywhere more often than not. Keep a small trash bag in your car, empty it when you get home.

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[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 63 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Personally, if I see a full trash can I will keep my trash with me until I can find a place to dispose of it. I can’t imagine just throwing it on the ground regardless of the can situation.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 20 points 5 days ago

I've had plenty of times where I get home and empty my pockets of the trash I accumulated with no can nearby.

And if I try to put something in a can and it falls out, I'm taking it with me because I didn't succeed in throwing it away.

Shrugging ans saying "well I tried" as you walk away isn't even trying.

[–] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

Japanese people do that as trash bins are very rare. It is an education issue and not the lack/full of trash binsy

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[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 35 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Perhaps one should ask why there is so much trash to be thrown away in the first place.

Bins wouldn't always be full if there was simply less trash to put in them.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

I worked for a park for a summer and it was an eye opener I'll tell you that much. They had someone (me!) basically just emptying trash cans all damn day and it wasn't enough! They filled up constantly.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The to-go and eating while mobile are a big chunk of litter.

A Dunks went in about a mile from a place I used to live, and where we lived was sort of a shortcut to one of the main roads from where the Dunks went in.

Our road began to be littered with Dunkin’ plastic cups, coffee cups and to-go bags. People would finish items and toss the trash out the window.

So taking things to-go and just throwing the trash down wherever is a big contributor.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, I work at a job where I need to empty trash cans and I can honestly say I don't get paid enough to haul y'alls shit off to the dumpster. Y'all put dumb shit in there that you shouldn't be putting in there. It's at the point where I take my trash home with me.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I worked at dunkin while I was in college and it didn't matter how often you took the trash out during the summertime, it was constantly overflowing from people cleaning out their cars into it.

Not even kidding, one day I was on break outside and watched someone fill the freshly emptied can 3/4 full with all their fast food trash. As soon as the trashcan is empty people take the opportunity to clean out their cars. It's fucking weird.

[–] DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Honestly, it's because we are experiencing a massive, unprecedented trash crisis like never before. People cannot find places to throw away trash because there's so much of it everywhere. It's a lot of fast food packing materials, disposable silverware, plates, napkins, stuff like that. The fact that trash cans are full everywhere, constantly, and people are trying to clean out their cars all the time anywhere they can... It's simply screams trash crisis. People just cannot get rid of all the trash that they have, there's too much coming in and not enough ways to throw it away. We need to stop using disposable crap that goes into the garbage

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'll still illegally dump my car's reffuse but at least I have the foresight to grab a trash bag and park by a sneaky dumpster I know to throw it in. Like yeah sure I put one trash bag in your commercial dumpster, but at least I'm not using your cans and making you bag/cart it to the dumpster!

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah if I was still working that job and saw someone doing that I wouldn't care. It's better than littering or making a minimum wage employee's job more miserable than it already is.

The person who made this meme has likely never worked one of those jobs.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 48 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This post gives me "people don't want to work anymore" vibes.

Another way to look at it is, people don't want to pay people to work anymore. Either the pay is such shit that the employees have no incentive to give a crap, or the employer doesn't hire enough people to get the work done.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You don't even know how fast these damn bins fill up. I'm a janitor at McDonald's, and move between 5 locations (same franchise owner). The two that are in a highway rest stop kind of area that get the most customers have several cans around the parking lot. I empty them before the restaurant even opens, and all or most of them are already full by my first break. There's only ever 1 janitor on shift at a time and we can't be everywhere all the time. Something I have had to explain to the owner who constantly gets on my ass about the cans in the parking lot being full. "Do you want me to just spend all day making sure the garbage cans are empty or shall I do the other tasks I have as well?"

The bins themselves look pretty large with the huge stone enclosure they're in; but the actual can inside is not even as big as a standard home kitchen bin, and the amount of trash generated by a single to-go meal from the restaurant is pretty nuts. And this is just from a fast food place. The bins placed by the city or municipality probably have even less of a chance to be serviced when the employees who do that are also in charge of cleaning the park bathrooms, mowing the grass, trimming trees and shrubs, fixing road signs, etc.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Not all heroes wear capes.

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[–] kamills@sh.itjust.works 56 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I feel like the solution to having some trash while the trash can is full, is to...just carry it with you till you find an empty one?

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[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There's a litter bin near my house in a rural area that the council has obviously forgotten about. It's been full for weeks!

You should see the amount of litter scattered around

Oh wait, it's absolutely none, because we're not fucking selfish savages

No fucking excuses for littering, ever. That's a societal problem, not a bin problem

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

Eh, It's a bit of both. No amount of societal pressure will solve a complete absence of waste disposal infrastructure. It's a matter of making sure the sense of shame and/or duty is greater than whatever distance there inevitably is to a working bin.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 days ago (11 children)

Maybe we should reduce the amount of shit we have to throw away.

But also maybe pay the garbage men fairly, and tell the business or municipality that the garbage collection is insufficient for their needs.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Meanwhile in Japan public trash cans are extremely rare and people are expected to bring their trash home and throw it away there. And they do. We are just a spoiled society.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I forgot what event it was here in Germany (where there are plenty of trash cans, at least in the inner cities) but every group of Japanese tourists left places they visit cleaner than they found them. They were nice

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago

If you treat people like trash, don't be surprised if they turn out to be garbage.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bro I remember in Japan there were almost no trash cans anywhere. We fuckin lucky here

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All you need is a can return policy and some homeless.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They don't even have that, they just have seperate bins for cans and bottles and people use them, and the only public places to throw away trash are in convenience stores. Which tbf exist like every 400m.

There are exceptions but generally people just keep the city clean because they want to (and social pressure).

Bottle/can deposit system can do a lot to make bins less full though. Japan just doesn't seem to need it.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

When the convenience store only has one employee, even often during peak times, that has to run the register, stock shelves, clean, and take out the trash, in that priority order, is it any wonder that the lower priority tasks just don't get done at all?

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago

That’s no excuse for littering - but it is super annoying.

There’s a dunks near me that moved its trash out of the drive in line WAAAAAAY over to the other side of the parking lot. Intentionally, so that I don’t bother them by throwing away, you know, the bag and napkins they give you.

That was the straw that broke the camels back - I just make my coffee now in the morning. It’s 1/100th the price and aggravation.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Keep it in your pocket. Not really hard tbh.
Of course other humans are trashy :/

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[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Maybe you should try to do the job of the trash collectors for a week and see if it's really honest to say "Its unbelievable people go to work and choose not to do their job anymore".

Most jobs have lunatics in leadership positions who think people can survive on exposure or gift cards or a minimum wage that cannot afford 3 healthy meals a day.

"Unskilled Labour" is a lie told by business people to swindle money from hardworking people. Most of the rich people on the planet are scoundrels.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 5 days ago

You should be more angry at the throwaway society we've become to create so much trash, rather than rant at the person who might be the sole employee until someone else comes in to do the regular morning cleanup duties.

So you think some full trash cans cause people to head out to the interstate and only then throw shit out their window? Guess they're making a statement or something...

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago

"I litter because the trash can was full"

And you're trying to think about perceived societal problems. How about introspection?

[–] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago
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