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That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

We user / have used Slack, Zoom, Meet/Gchat and a VERY brief trial of teams.

We have O365 AND Google Workspaces so we get teams and meet for free.

Zoom is the best to host a large meeting with a split presence. It's the best at dealing with variably poor connections. It shines on being able to share any specific app and sound control.

Meet is the best for small, low-friction meetings. However, it is hampered by its inability to share anything but browser tabs with sound, poor camera control, and poor user display.

Slack is a fantastic, too-flexible chat system with organizational issues. When it works, it works pretty well. However, it has intermittent video and mic problems on many systems. It is not good on poor connections and occasionally not good on fast connections.

Teams is bloated, many systems run it poorly, and there is an unacceptable amount of server-imposed downtime/issues.

[–] expr@programming.dev 2 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

I've personally never had an issue with Slack, mic/video included. My connection has always been solid, though. Never tried on a shit connection.

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[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You can share windows and entire screen with Meet.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

not with sound

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, they're all crap.

Came to Teams from Slack, some upsides, some downsides. It's a corporate communication tool, I don't use it because I think it's beautiful and elegant, I use it because I get paid money to use it.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I've had limited experience with slack, but the whole way conversations map to workspaces at least got to be confusing to me, and I would have liked an experience based on me as a user, rather than having my user span workspaces and have to juggle them to figure out how to talk to whoever I'm supposed to talk to at the time.

[–] dax@feddit.org 35 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The biggest mistake was to make it a "hub" for all sorts of other uses in my opinion. It shouldn't be browser based, it should be native and just focus on chatting and calls, that's it. It could be so much faster and intuitive.

[–] a_postmodern_hat@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

You mean like Skype for Business?

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 4 points 13 hours ago

You mean Lync?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

You dare speak the name of the accursed one??

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Next you'll tell me the sky is blue.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

If we were on Teams right now I may not have received this snarky message.

[–] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Thank you! Finally someone has the guts to say this publicly

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The only thing it does better than Slack: A list of all my chats, most recent at the top, without any disappearing or grouped in some weird way. Slack annoys me.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I got slack for my college course, I left the group. I have no fucking idea what is going on on that app it was insanity. Seemed like 12 different groups of the same people and sometimes you got notifications sometimes you did not.

It was just a really bad UI and UX.

[–] spicystraw@lemmy.world 49 points 21 hours ago (13 children)

Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams

Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is... actually fine? Yeah, it's not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it's the corporate standard around here.

I can't tell you how much time I've saved not having to do the whole "can you hear me? let me try reconnecting... oh wait try updating your browser" dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It's been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I'm not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago

With how much goddamn investor money they got it should be as close to perfect as possible, IMHO. We've had like 2 decades to perfect interacting online, I don't think its a technical challenge anymore.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

For me "it just works" doesn't ring true. Generally at least once a day, I join a call and it won't let me unmute, and I have to restart Teams.

Scrolling through history is obnoxiously slow.

The activity feed is mostly useless, spammed with stuff that isn't important and it's the only place that vaguely tries to keep track of 'Teams' conversations.

In my company, I've been added to about 70 Teams and it's pretty much impossible to interact with them, so as a result no one does, they all just start ad-hoc chats, since that's the only thing that vaguely gets managed in a way people can follow.

When going cross-organization, it's a crap shoot whether or not we can use text, voice, and screen share/remote control. I know this is generally due to obnoxious company 'security' policies and other solutions have it, but it is a frustration. One recent call with a particularly screwed up company had us on two different meeting platforms at once as well as on an old fashioned conference call, because text was only allowed on one platform, screen share on another, and no audio was allowed on either (despite both supporting all three).

Sure, Teams suffers, in part, because like all corporate tools it connects you to generally dysfunctional work communities. However it broadly does have it's own annoyances.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 16 points 17 hours ago

I hate teams because it consistently doesn't just work

missed notifications, screensharing

i have little use of it and it constantly breaks

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[–] pagenotfound@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I’m annoyed you still can’t do annotations with Teams.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Haha be thankful for what you have. I work at a pretty large financial institution and we still use Skype for Business. There is another messaging app we use but not everyone is granted access to it so I have to use both apps daily.

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[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 39 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

The fact that me and a coworker can't both share our screens at the same time is absolutely batshit. 1x1 collaboration isn't even reasonable, nevermind anything more

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Try sharing anything except excel and enjoy your 3fps. Being a game dev and wanting to show videos or share my screen while playing is a no-go.

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[–] little_tuptup@lemmy.ml 27 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I work in IT. I think it's popular because it's "free".

With that said, I put up a picture on the office wall of a Swiss army knife with features like syringe, fire extinguisher, axe, etc and have it labeled Microsoft Teams. Yes, it can do 100 different tasks, fucking poorly.

Exactly. Every time I mention some feature I like from Slack to a coworker of mine who loves Teams, they point out how to accomplish the same task, but it's less intuitive, feature poor, and comes with a handful of caveats. But it can do them, and I guess if you're used to it, it can be pretty productive.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Your organization has blocked this action"

I mean this is my work phone, and I'm trying to copy a customer's phone number from a spreadsheet to the dialer, but thanks man.

[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

For a long time, I would occasionally use my personal phone to check work email and Slack when I had to be out-of-office for an errand. They created a new policy last month that would force me to have a "work" profile on my phone if I wanted to continue using those apps. Fuck that. Instead I removed every work related app from my phone.

"Sorry boss, I can't check my messages while waiting at my doctor's office anymore.Why? Oh, because IT policies won't let me."

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[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 23 points 22 hours ago

that is because theyre selling it to the business, not the end user. They dont give 2 fucks about your experience

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's the Sharepoint of chat.

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ironically enough it creates Sharepoints for each of your groups.

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's SharePoint all the way down

[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I fucking hate SharePoint. Excel performance is A G O N Y. pros: cloud backup & comments Cons: slow. As. Shit.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 78 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was expecting a detailed rant, including an example or two. “That’s all” is much, much funnier.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago

As with all things in business, good enough is king

I actually don't mind it being web based, there are a lot of web based tools that run perfectly fine and don't use that much resource

Teams is generally stable for me running the pwa in Microsoft edge nowadays too

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Spoken like a person who isn't forced to use JIRA

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I keep a Teams tab and an Outlook tab opened in Firefox on Linux at work, and I feel like I have a better experience than most people using it on windows, which seems crazy.

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 215 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Microsoft OneDrive is the maggots in the dog shit

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