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[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

on one hand fuck Twitter, but on the other... Link previews never should be considered copyright infringement.

Make a paywall and see your support drop. Their fuck up for fucking up their html tags

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

How do you know it's about link previews?

The arcticle mentions that it's about redistributing the content without payment.

Microsoft, Google and Meta got in trouble as well in the past and got a fine or agreed to paid up.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Because that's one key feature in the "2019 European directive adopted into French law". It's also what the Google fine was about.

Also, X isn't really suitable for copy/pasting entire articles, like is done on lemmy. So that's probably not it.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Are you sure about that?

At the same time, the use of individual words or very short extracts of press publications by information society service providers may not undermine the investments made by publishers of press publications in the production of content. Therefore, it is appropriate to provide that the use of individual words or very short extracts of press publications should not fall within the scope of the rights provided for in this Directive. Taking into account the massive aggregation and use of press publications by information society service providers, it is important that the exclusion of very short extracts be interpreted in such a way as not to affect the effectiveness of the rights provided for in this Directive.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2019/790/oj

[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

The bigger evil

[–] linguine@feddit.rocks 68 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sounds like a link tax, not actually reproducing any written content. I really dislike link taxes, they're gonna break the internet at some point if they don't see pushback.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the code automatically shows the article or summarizes it without clicking on the link, then yeah, that's infringement. It should only show the title and the link imo.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Except the summary is almost always literally the content the sites ask the sites linking them to show.

They have "please show this preview instead of a boring plain link" code.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This. They even provide the cover image to use. If they don't want embedding they could just block the request.

But they don't want to. They want to sell the cake and eat it too.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They want to sell the cake and eat it too..

Or they want to sell the cake and get paid for it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

More like: They want to sell the cake and be paid when you recommend it to others.

Mind that news media don't pay when they link to social media, quote people, or even report what other media has reported. The real question is, if this law has any beneficial effect for society. I don't see how.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Mind that news media don't pay

That's exactly what (maybe) violates the law.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You think people should pay X to link to tweets? Or generally for quotes?

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

No, I'm not saying anything about 'should'.

It's about a lawsuit here, and I have told that this may be what has violated the law.

The court will tell you for sure, in the end.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Misunderstanding. The news media is suing X. I pointed out what news media does without paying.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It should only show the title and the link imo.

That's infringement in Europe, which makes it effectively a link tax.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's the same thing that lets us have a site like lemmy

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Oh, he's saying that snippet view lets us have sites like lemmy. I didn't get how cracking down on that would help lemmy.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Now when I open a Google map link my wife sent from messenger, messenger opens a copy of maps inside messenger that doesn't work half the time. Is that excluded from link tax?

When musks puts unskippable ads to go to content instead of reading it almost in its entirety right on the site (with an ad besides it), is that also link tax?

Enshitification of links is what will break the internet. Musk would be the first to sue for this.

[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in Canada, and I sent a cbc.ca news link to someone in instagram chat. It showed a preview of the post with a picture and summary, but when the link was clicked it went to a page that said:

People in Canada can't view this content.

Content from news publications can't be viewed in Canada in response to Canadian government legislation.

[–] Gawdl3y@pawb.social 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

These previews are almost always specified by the website themself, using the OpenGraph protocol. The website is literally asking other services to "use this for the preview's image, and this block of text for the description, please!"

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 9 points 1 day ago

Do they want to get France kicked out of NATO?