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[–] linguine@feddit.rocks 69 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sounds like a link tax, not actually reproducing any written content. I really dislike link taxes, they're gonna break the internet at some point if they don't see pushback.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If the code automatically shows the article or summarizes it without clicking on the link, then yeah, that's infringement. It should only show the title and the link imo.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Except the summary is almost always literally the content the sites ask the sites linking them to show.

They have "please show this preview instead of a boring plain link" code.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This. They even provide the cover image to use. If they don't want embedding they could just block the request.

But they don't want to. They want to sell the cake and eat it too.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They want to sell the cake and eat it too..

Or they want to sell the cake and get paid for it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More like: They want to sell the cake and be paid when you recommend it to others.

Mind that news media don't pay when they link to social media, quote people, or even report what other media has reported. The real question is, if this law has any beneficial effect for society. I don't see how.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mind that news media don't pay

That's exactly what (maybe) violates the law.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You think people should pay X to link to tweets? Or generally for quotes?

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, I'm not saying anything about 'should'.

It's about a lawsuit here, and I have told that this may be what has violated the law.

The court will tell you for sure, in the end.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Misunderstanding. The news media is suing X. I pointed out what news media does without paying.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It should only show the title and the link imo.

That's infringement in Europe, which makes it effectively a link tax.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's the same thing that lets us have a site like lemmy

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Oh, he's saying that snippet view lets us have sites like lemmy. I didn't get how cracking down on that would help lemmy.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Now when I open a Google map link my wife sent from messenger, messenger opens a copy of maps inside messenger that doesn't work half the time. Is that excluded from link tax?

When musks puts unskippable ads to go to content instead of reading it almost in its entirety right on the site (with an ad besides it), is that also link tax?

Enshitification of links is what will break the internet. Musk would be the first to sue for this.

[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm in Canada, and I sent a cbc.ca news link to someone in instagram chat. It showed a preview of the post with a picture and summary, but when the link was clicked it went to a page that said:

People in Canada can't view this content.

Content from news publications can't be viewed in Canada in response to Canadian government legislation.

[–] Gawdl3y@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

These previews are almost always specified by the website themself, using the OpenGraph protocol. The website is literally asking other services to "use this for the preview's image, and this block of text for the description, please!"