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[–] pvr@beehaw.org 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Step 1: don’t tell the whole internet that you’re trying to create a torrent site.

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

Just following in the footsteps of the Silk Road's creator on Stack Overflow. The FBI mentioned the post specifically.

[–] djmarcone@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I'm sure op meant to say "in minecraft"

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not trying to be rude, but the fact that you are asking this question demonstrates the fact that you shouldn't.

If you want to contribute to free and open information, set up a VPN, bind QBitorrent or another FOSS torrenting software to it, and seed as much as you can.

Help digital archivists and data horders if you have the storage.

Spread accurate information on this stuff to help others.

If you really want to help build out the grey and black market infrastructure for data and digital goods, you need to learn advanced infosec and programming skills and that takes a long time and lots of study.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or you could use Unit3d. Doesnt seem that hard to implement.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the "not getting caught" part that's difficult.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago
[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago

ha ha , don't brag about what your doing , use all aliases , trash email and create a new persona. Use multi-hop VPN's and proxies from non-extradited countries. STFU. Again STFU

[–] DoisBigo@lemmy.eco.br 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello.

I'm very interesting in your ideas.

Do you think you could e-mail me to discuss what you are planning in more details?

My e-mail is john.cena@fbi.gov

Thanks.

[–] UnixWeeb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whats the email? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

[–] LeChuck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

You can clearly see that the email is @fbi.gov

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] wtry@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago
[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 year ago

Well, for starters you're already off to a horrible start.

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For starters, don't make a post asking how to make a torrent site on your main account lol

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's what Ross Ulbricht did and it ended badly

[–] Redredme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lonke@feddit.nu 16 points 1 year ago

But then you'd have a myriad of arguably worse problems.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 27 points 1 year ago

You should probably call the FBI and ask permission.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You were so obsessed with whether or not you could, you didn't stop to think if you should.

[–] Xianshi@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

If I was going to do it I would only host the site on tor or i2p. I'd only host magnet links with minimal metadata and aim to have the site work without JavaScript. Maybe a small flask application or something to populate the pages using templates. Very basic, light weight and secure.

I would also release a monthly dump of the site to allow it to survive in the event of a takedown .

This way you have a minimal attack surface , you are protected from legal threats as they dont know where or who is hosting and they dont have a hosting provider to send the notices to.

With regular dumps of the site , taking it down becomes futile as there are copies out there in the wild, that can spring up the next day if needed. Its like a diversified seed bank if you will 😉.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to be behind seven proxies.

[–] Antimutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Find a fool who'll do it for you.

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Step 1: Move to Switzerland. Step 2: torrent site

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably safer to move to Russia or North Korea.

[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you and I have the same definition of the word "safer."

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 6 points 1 year ago

Safer for the torrent site. For the people running it, eh, who knows.¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] Rabbit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

Start revolution and overthrow dictator and put myself in as dictator. Build up military and gather nukes under guise of protecting country, but it's really to protect me from copyright trolls.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder if there could be a torrent site that is decentralized enough that no one really has significant liability for running it, like Bittorrent itself but for the indexing/curation aspect.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry to stop your wondering, but I have an answer: yes. I created a peer-to-peer protocol for scalable, advanced and decentralized search engines. On top of this protocol, I created Admarus, a decentralized search engine for IPFS. If someone published a distributed torrent website on IPFS, it could get indexed on Admarus and could never be banned

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like a cool software. I only know a little about IPFS, could that search work to search for individual pages for torrents within such a site? Can IPFS do page updates that aren't centrally controlled, ie. the initial publisher can't actually shut it down or dictate what others can put on it?

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

Yes it allows searching for individual pages. Everyone can publish and index whatever files they want. However, they won't appear under a domain name without being added by the domain name owner. Domain name are just for humans to read though, they are not required by ipfs and admarus. Nothing prevents you from cloning a website, modifying it, and publishing it under another domain or without a domain. Content published on IPFS is immutable and lives as long as someone has it. That means many revisions of a website can exist at the same time. Domain name are practical because they are made to always point to the latest revision.

No one can dictate what can be indexed. However, ranking takes popularity into account, so that spam and unwanted content doesn't rank high

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 10 points 1 year ago

By not starting a torrent site 🙃

[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Start by calling your local authorities and tell them you plan on hosting a torrent site, but it's definitely not illegal content.

[–] k110111@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay thats a fun question to answer.

Disclaimer: i don't know much about piracy and stuff in general but studied computer science so sharing this just for funsies DO NOT TAKE THIS ADVICE IF YOU ARE SERIOUS!!!

Okay so here it goes:

Buy crypto then use crypto mixers to annonymize it.

Use a webhosting site that accept said crypto.

Use vpn for everything preferably more than one routing from multiple countries like one from west then one from east.

If you can use a vm specifically for everything related to your site to make sure things are contained.

Make sure to not upload from the same id's as the one you use to create site. Make a user account if you wanna upload anything.

Read up on how other such websites are created to figure out if you are missing something.

[–] ellipse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

well good thing you said to not take this advice because it's not really good.

  1. Don't use crypto mixers, a lot of them are scams and their usefullness is up to debate -> instead use monero, the actual private crypto that is used throughout darknet.
  2. Don't use VPNs to be anonymous. VPN are useful for a few things: torrenting, browsing on a public wifi and bypassing georestrictions. they are not useful if you want to be anonymous! To be anonymous, use TOR (or i2p) 3.the VM advice is good. alternatively you could use TailsOS which is more user friendly.
  3. Don't. Especially if you need to ask how to do it first.
[–] reddithalation@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

online anonymity to governments is very very very hard if not impossible if they actually needed to find you