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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Facebook had less than a million users in China before it was banned in 2009. It was struggling against domestic platforms like Webo.

TikTok has 150 million active monthly users and is one of the largest social media apps in the US.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Number of users is not a valid argument on this type of debate

[–] Letme@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The fact that a counter-intelligence campaign has so many users is exactly why it needs to be banned

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where's the evidence that it's "counter intelligence" I hear a lot of completely unverified claims that sound like 1950s reds under the bed nationalist hysteria

[–] Letme@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Misinformation is counter-intelligence, lots of evidence out there, search "TikTok misinformation"

[–] Letme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, I meant disinformation : Disinformation is a form of offensive counterintelligence via deception and neutralization in order to strategically manipulate an audience or create further fractures in existing divisions. Disinformation strategies include leaking, lying, seeding, and smearing.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

TikTok doesn't have any worse misinformation and disinformation issues than YouTube and Facebook. And The latest policy changes in Facebook indicate they're going to go squarely into misinformation without any fact checking.

Disinformation is an excuse to ban the platform. Zuckerberg has been lobbying Congress for a long time to ban them while pushing his platform to be able to do exactly what he claims they're doing.

There's a lot of reasons to hate TikTok, but this disinformation stuff is nothing but red herring to get them banned because they're competition.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

A. Counter-Intelligence is when you are countering intelligence gathering activities.

B. Nobody has released any evidence that TikTok is an intelligence gathering tool.

C. This law is unconstitutional by the plain text of the Constitution. SCOTUS has truly gone over the edge.