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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

is it weird that i like the concept of a motorcycle more than a car?

Like even though they're much more dangerous, i just don't really care.

[–] PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyi 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You're not alone in not caring. Consider how many people will rail against motorcycles, but ignore worse activities. Horse riding is about 25x as dangerous as riding a motorcycle. How many folks do you see who are willing to tell a random person they see on a horse how dangerous the activity is? Yet I get random dipsticks who feel they're doing the lord's work when they come up to me on my bike and tell me what they think of the dangers of motorcycles.

[–] ta_leadran_orm@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely sure that horse riding is more dangerous, I'm not that experienced with motorbikes, but I ride horses all the time, I reckon you might fall from a horse more often, but it's usually a fairly simple thing, not going too fast or anything. Unless you're talking about horse racing which is quite dangerous, but most riders do other, much safer thing on horseback.

That said, I live in rural Ireland where from what I understand, the roads are significantly more dangerous for motorbikes do that might be skewing my perspective.

Though random fools telling you that what you're doing is dangerous are, to me, overstepping. As long as you're not putting others in excess danger you should be left alone.

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it's fair to say that horse's have a wider range of personalities or temperaments than motorbikes do. A bike won't throw you off if you're doing everything properly. A horse on the other hand can just not be arsed carrying you anymore or get spooked by something passing by.

All that said I don't think it would be easy to build a credible frame of comparison between the the two forms of transport. I wouldn't be surprised if either could be 'proven' to be more dangerous given the amount of thin air that the frame of reference would be resting on.

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

You are not accounting for all the assholes around you in the traffic. All it takes is either some light road rage or just glancing away from the road for a few seconds, and then you go flying.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I would never bother you about it but horses don't wake me and my family up at 1 am, and a horse didn't come out of nowhere yesterday (while it was dark) and cut me off almost causing an accident. So I imagine you can see why there is a bit of hostility.

But hey they are fun to ride and fuel efficient. My inlaws run their whole farming operation with motorcycles and an overworked tractor. Maybe people would like them more if we went after modifications that make them too loud.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's rather inconsiderate approaching people like this, but I think it's implying danger for the others too, not just yourself. I personally don't see a lot of people riding horses in dense traffic.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree that is probably part of the perception, but I wonder what sort of rates motorcyclists are at fault in any sort of traffic injury? Motorcycles are also often too loud too, horses are quaint and cute.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

i would assume motorcyles are much less prone to causing accidents. Given that the rider has to be significantly more vigilant, if they don't want their legs amputated.

I'm guessing the likelihood of them getting into accidents is much higher, or at the very least, the rate of injury resulting from crashes.

[–] force@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

they're much more dangerous in large part due to cars, i mean yea hitting a rock and flying off your bike at 70 mph isn't very safe, but motorcycling would be a lot less deadly without cars