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Is threads federating with Lemmy??? I thought it was federating with mastodon (and mastodon-like).
Yeah although since you can also see Mastodon content here (from what I understand), I guess you can also see Threads, well, threads here.
Once you implement ActivityPub, you federate with everything that uses ActivityPub. Your server might simply not see every other server yet, but you're on the same network. With the current implementation, Lemmy will never display a Threads post and Threads will never display a Lemmy thread/comment. But they might send data to each other.
That makes sense, thanks for the explanation.
Doesn't this mean defederation is kinda pointless though, since meta could just stealth-add an activitypub server that did nothing but record all data?
They could, just as the alt-right troll instances did the exact same thing with ActivityPub proxy and ActivityPub-troll the difference though is that if we federate we hand them that data on a silver platter and invite them in. If they scrape or circumvent they're getting it underhanded.
It's the difference between being invited in, or walking in uninvited or worse, after being told no.
I guess, but honestly I don't really see it mattering, it's lip service; if we trusted meta to behave ethically then we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place. forcing them to be explicitly unethical won't cost them any more. In practice, the only people hurt are the normies using threads, and their friends who use mastodon but still want to talk with them.
I suppose it's good sometimes to take a stand for something even if it doesn't change anything but inconveniencing yourself. I'm not entirely convinced though.
It's the same network.