Draconic_NEO

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Something I didn't consider when answering earlier is that even if Firefox did have good RAM usage limiting built-in I probably still wouldn't use it or recommend it, because one of Firefox's biggest problems is that it leaks. And memory leaks will not be negated by Firefox's built-in RAM limiter but they will be by systemd's (or anything else you might be using instead) Firefox would still crash in the event of a leak but it's still better than it taking gnome or other apps with it, or freezing your system entirely.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

There's no automod in this community removing posts or comments from people who say Wndows

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

People say companies' main purpose is to make money, when those companies do stupid shit like this it really calls into question the truthfulness of that statement. Since they're clearly losing customers and money while not gaining anything for their efforts, then they'll jusify their bullshit by saying "Market research", "predictive Revenue intelligence", "Customer satisfaction" and plenty of other buzzy corporate terms that sound smart but don't really have much meaning.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

No, it just limits the amount of RAM that Firefox (or whatever other application you launch with these parameters) will see.

A few Firefox tabs may crash occasionally as a side effect. And obviously if Firefox eats up all of the 8GB it's allocated it may crash itself though usually it doesn't and tabs will crash before the browser crashes.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That's good to know, I don't know how well it would work though I feel like I enabled something about closing background tabs to reduce memory load (it might have been what you said, it might have been something else I don't really remember) and it helped a little bit but it still ended up chewing up a lot of memory.

Setting the limit though did help immediately. And stop the overconsumption problems, occasionally a couple of tabs crash here and there but it doesn't freeze or worse cause other apps to slow down and freeze. Which did happen before.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I can confirm this, the first time I tried it out I accidentally set it to 1 GB, Firefox could only see that amount of memory. Though limiting Firefox to only 1GB its a very bad idea and it can cause it to crash it's not because it's trying to go over though it's just because it ran out of memory.

8GB is what I would consider the safe minimum for web browsing. If you said it lower you'll have performance losses. Setting it higher though will only chew up valuable System RAM by inactive tabs.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It might be harder for them but there are similar tools that they could use to limit it. One I've seen people use is firejail, a tool designed for sandboxing processes and applications.

I've personally never tried it myself though so I can't attest to how well it works, either for this purpose or sandboxing in general.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Gives a lot of Space for running Virtual machines.

Also browsers can chew that up fast if you have a lot of tabs, Firefox has managed to do it a few times. At least until I started limiting its RAM to 8GB (best decision ever)

Limit Firefox to 8GB of RAM .desktop file

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Name=Firefox RAM limit 8GB
GenericName=Firefox Ram limit 8GB
Comment=Limit RAM for Firefox to 8GB;
Exec=systemd-run --user --scope -p MemoryLimit=8G firefox
Icon=firefox
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Categories=Utility;Development;
StartupWMClass=Firefox

(To use it with other apps like Chrome or Electron apps just replace the command at the end, and startup class with the ones from the program you'd like to run. Icon and Name changes are optional but might be desirable so you remember what app it is for).

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They're brainwashed chuds, it doesn't really matter what they think.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even with the Hashtag misuse that's not as bad as group spam, since people spamming groups can reach further than they otherwise would just spamming on their server. Which is why being able to moderate groups is important. Also with Guppe's system you can create any group you want without authorization, that's a problem because malicious people can create groups that aren't acceptable including ones with racist and illegal content and use it to distribute that across the network. I found a few of these without much digging and I quickly reported them to Mastodon.social and got them suspended but they're still there on the other servers.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The problem with Guppe is that it automatically federates all the post content unlike with hashtags which are just a marker. If someone spams in a hashtag n one server it's going to suck but unless people follow them it'll be limited to that server for the most part. With Guppe groups if they spam to them it gets boosted to all servers. It's not just a tag that gets cluttered, it forces the content into all the other instances by way of boosting.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Something I learned recently which should've been obvious but I guess I just never noticed it was that it seems that Guppe groups aren't moderated, like at all. This is concerning and problematic because it basically means they could become spam and hate vectors with only the admins of individual servers able to moderate the content. Compare that to the fact that Lemmy and mbin indeed can moderate communties, remove posts, and most importantly ban users from participating and stop the group from boosting them. That's as good a reason as any why one might want to use Lemmy or mbin to host groups on Mastodon instead of guppe.

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