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[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just because something is natural does not make it the optimal or best choice. It's natural for us to shit in the woods but I don't see many people arguing we should do away with toilets. As for B12, there are plenty of vegan sources and supplements readily available

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Supplements aren't much of an answer for getting vitamins unless you can't get them normally, for example due to one's body not processing it very well from diet alone

Here's a great link to foods high in B-12.

Edit: Link fixed, now goes to the top of the article rather than the middle.

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless I misinterpret your comment, doesn't the link just show fortified food that contains the same "artificial" vitamins as the supplements do?

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not sure why the link jumps to the middle of the article but scrolling up shows foods that are naturally high in B-12

Supplements can be important and needed for some people but relying on supplements and telling others to, "just take supplements," isn't a solution to nutritional deficiencies caused by diet

Basically eating a well rounded diet should get you the nutrients you need, a doctor will be able to tell you if you're lacking in some areas and if you should take supplements to fill in some gaps

Edit: Fixed the link in my previous comment.

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I guess the problem was that I only considered vegan options. A vegetarian diet ss certainly possible without any supplements. However, there are simply no vegan natural B12 sources. Thank you for clarifying though! :)

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I hate both of those arguments because they're always presented as a logical "gotcha" when in reality they're nothing but appeals to "common sense," which of course is a cultural construct and not at all "common." The B12 argument in particular I've heard from people who know someone who knows someone who heard from someone that you get "sluggish" and have "brain fog" if you go vegetarian/vegan. Aside from the hearsay nature of it, often these are people who jumped feet first into the lifestyle without doing even the most cursory and basic of research and treated it as a "diet" rather than a lifestyle shift. Of course not supplementing B12 and living off pasta and processed frozen foods and junk food will leave you feeling like shit. I've been on the path for 4 years now and have never had a single deficiency or problem. But it takes planning and understanding your body's nutritional needs, and for a lot of people that's an ask too far. Theyre happy to ignore the suffering of animals and the horrors of the insudustrial meat/dairy production system if it means not having to make the smallest of changes.