rollinghills

$1m to Trump and now this!

“Insufficient” despite the fact these are reputable sources. I’m done debating with a troll.

Here are more studies on the topic though if you're interested in reading them:

Many credible physicians recommend Whole-food plant-based diets (WFPB).

Nutritional Update for Physicians: Plant-Based Diets

Ten years of life: Is it a matter of choice?

Low-carbohydrate diets and all-cause and cause-specific mortality: two cohort studies.

Plant Foods Have a Complete Amino Acid Composition

Mortality in vegetarians and comparable nonvegetarians in the United Kingdom

Comparison of Nutritional Quality of the Vegan, Vegetarian, Semi-Vegetarian, Pesco-Vegetarian and Omnivorous Diet

Beyond Meatless, the Health Effects of Vegan Diets: Findings from the Adventist Cohorts

The Health Advantage of a Vegan Diet: Exploring the Gut Microbiota Connection

Comparative metabolomics in vegans and omnivores reveal constraints on diet-dependent gut microbiota metabolite production

High compliance with dietary recommendations in a cohort of meat eaters, fish eaters, vegetarians, and vegans: results from the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition–Oxford study

A low-fat vegan diet and a conventional diabetes diet in the treatment of type 2 diabetes: a randomized, controlled, 74-wk clinical trial 1,2,3,4

Milk intake and risk of mortality and fractures in women and men: cohort studies.

Vegetarian Diets and Medical Expenditure in Taiwan—A Matched Cohort Study

Energy and protein feed-to-food conversion efficiencies

Analysis and valuation of the health and climate change cobenefits of dietary change

Current global food production is sufficient to meet human nutritional needs in 2050 provided there is radical societal adaptation

Dietary Patterns and Their Relationship to Land Use, Water Use, and Greenhouse Gas Emissions: Implications for Future Food Security

Now you’re just moving the goal posts and claiming what ever suits your beliefs.

That study you sent doesn’t prove the carnivore idea at all.

the only peer reviewed source you provided spends as much time detailing risks as it does explaining potential benefits.

That doesn’t disprove anything at all. The health benefits are there and it’s not difficult at all to eat a variety of grains, seeds, mushrooms, vegetables, fruit. You only need one of each supplement: the multivitamin and omega 3 every day.

Also byw people in general are not getting enough vitamin d and fibre in the average diet.

You’re just putting your head in the sand to keep up your old habits while ignoring the evidence just like an anti-vaxxer.

It is a dangerous diet, people saw through the grift.

You’re clearly talking out of your ass.

It is scientifically backed that you don’t need to eat meat.

New research published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition shows that both plant-based protein and meat build muscle equally well however because plant-protein comes with less 'baggage' in the form of harmful components it's the more beneficial protein source to use.

A study published last week in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that dietary protein derived from plant sources built muscle just as well as protein from meat sources. However meat also comes with additional components that are harmful to our health, including antibiotic residue, hormones, saturated fat, trans-fats, endotoxins, cholesterol, Neu5Gc, heterocyclic amines and contaminants such as high levels of metals including copper and arsenic. These undesirable elements increase inflammation and promote various diseases thus making meat a less desirable option when building muscle and long term health are considered.

https://www.riseofthevegan.com/blog/plant-protein-best-for-building-muscle

Anyone can follow a vegan diet – from children to teens to older adults. It’s even healthy for pregnant or nursing mothers. A well-planned vegan diet is high in fibre, vitamins and antioxidants. Plus, it’s low in saturated fat and cholesterol. This healthy combination helps protect against chronic diseases. Vegans have lower rates of heart disease, diabetes and certain types of cancer than non-vegans. Vegans also have lower blood pressure levels than both meat-eaters and vegetarians and are less likely to be overweight.

https://www.unlockfood.ca/en/Articles/Vegetarian-and-Vegan-Diets/What-You-Need-to-Know-About-Following-a-Vegan-Eati.aspx

"There's certainly some research on the benefits of the vegetarian diet," says Kathy McManus, director of the Department of Nutrition at Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women's Hospital. She ticks off the various advantages associated with this way of eating—lower body mass index and blood pressure; reduced risks for heart disease, diabetes, and cancer; and longer life.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/is-a-vegetarian-or-vegan-diet-for-you

The objective of this article is to present to physicians an update on plant-based diets. Concerns about the rising cost of health care are being voiced nationwide, even as unhealthy lifestyles are contributing to the spread of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease. For these reasons, physicians looking for cost-effective interventions to improve health outcomes are becoming more involved in helping their patients adopt healthier lifestyles. Healthy eating may be best achieved with a plant-based diet, which we define as a regimen that encourages whole, plant-based foods and discourages meats, dairy products, and eggs as well as all refined and processed foods. We present a case study as an example of the potential health benefits of such a diet. Research shows that plant-based diets are cost-effective, low-risk interventions that may lower body mass index, blood pressure, HbA1C, and cholesterol levels. They may also reduce the number of medications needed to treat chronic diseases and lower ischemic heart disease mortality rates. Physicians should consider recommending a plant-based diet to all their patients, especially those with high blood pressure, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, or obesity.

https://www.thepermanentejournal.org/doi/10.7812/TPP/12-085

You don’t have eat only meat to avoid having too much sugar.

Just eat whole foods, there are so many grains, vegetables, fruit, nuts and seeds you could eat instead.

Don’t go for the fast food meals, processed stuff or candy.

This is just a troll community that is cutting its nose to spite its face because the poster has some revenge fantasy towards the vegans users of Lemmy.

The carnivore diet is not healthy as humans are supposed to eat vegetables and fruit. You will damage your heart and increase your risk for cancer following this dangerous diet.

Red meat (beef, veal, pork, lamb and mutton) consumption contributes several important nutrients to the diet, for example essential amino acids, vitamins (including B12) and minerals (including iron and zinc). Processed red meat (ham, sausages, bacon, frankfurters, salami, etc.) undergoes treatment (curing, smoking, salting or the use of chemical preservatives and additives) to improve its shelf life and/or taste. During recent decades, consumption of red meat has been increasing globally, especially in developing countries. At the same time, there has been growing evidence that high consumption of red meat, especially of processed meat, may be associated with an increased risk of several major chronic diseases. Here, a comprehensive summary is provided of the accumulated evidence based on prospective cohort studies regarding the potential adverse health effects of red meat consumption on major chronic diseases, such as diabetes, coronary heart disease, heart failure, stroke and cancer at several sites, and mortality. Risk estimates from pooled analyses and meta-analyses are presented together with recently published findings. Based on at least six cohorts, summary results for the consumption of unprocessed red meat of 100 g day-1 varied from nonsignificant to statistically significantly increased risk (11% for stroke and for breast cancer, 15% for cardiovascular mortality, 17% for colorectal and 19% for advanced prostate cancer); for the consumption of 50 g day-1 processed meat, the risks were statistically significantly increased for most of the studied diseases (4% for total prostate cancer, 8% for cancer mortality, 9% for breast, 18% for colorectal and 19% for pancreatic cancer, 13% for stroke, 22% for total and 24% for cardiovascular mortality and 32% for diabetes). Potential biological mechanisms underlying the observed risks and the environmental impact of red meat production are also discussed. The evidence-based integrated message is that it is plausible to conclude that high consumption of red meat, and especially processed meat, is associated with an increased risk of several major chronic diseases and preterm mortality. Production of red meat involves an environmental burden. Therefore, some European countries have already integrated these two issues, human health and the 'health of the planet', into new dietary guidelines and recommended limiting consumption of red meat.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27597529/

Like, vegans already have their own issues in getting the right nutrients

It’s not difficult to eat a variety of foods and take a multivitamin and an omega 3 everyday 🙄

You sound so spiteful, your arteries are going to get blocked.