Neptium

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[–] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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Tagging all because I'd rather just do a single reply since everyone mentioned similar things.

Yeah to be honest I was mainly looking at Vic3 or Stellaris in the first place, never was into the dynasties of the CK series that much.

The main issue is really just age, Vic3 in classic Paradox fashion, is often buggy and dysfunctional because it is a new release. Just wondered how much it improved since then, but from y'alls replies, it still has a long way to go.

I guess I'll settle for Stellaris for now. Thanks for the help.

I'll definitely play Vic3 one day though - it's mechanics and setting is just too interesting for me personally. But I'll give it more time for the devs to sort out everything before committing. When I got sucked into EU4, it was already like 4 years since release so I can definitely wait.

[–] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I agree but I have some money remaining on my Steam that I literally have nothing else to use for (I don't really play "expensive" games other than Paradox).

May aswell fund some Swedes for wasting hundreds of hours of my time lol

[–] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Actually I have played it before. I very much enjoy it but I'm not sure why, it never really had any "staying" power. I would build a city, sometimes up to only 5k population, sometimes 50k and I'll completely forget about that city and the game for months. I never really got "hooked" into the game, which is usually what happens with others.

It for sure fulfilled my micromanaging needs though. Thanks for reminding me - I know that public transport isn't as atrocious as it once was with the later DLCs and updates. Maybe the next time I'll actually able to manage traffic.

 

I know pirating is always an option, and I used to play EU4 completely pirated.

But I got some credit remaining on Steam and they’re on sale right now, so lads, which should I go for?

Background info being I only played EU4 before, and enjoyed the nation-building side more rather than the military strategy. Although I was able to do some WCs back in the day and I do like micromanaging and extending a 20hr campaign into a 100hr one.

[–] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

The issue is over here, although it may be easy to attribute homophobic attitudes to be external in origin, whether it was British colonization or Wahhabist-Salafist influence, it is much more complicated than that.

Obviously those 2 had it roles, and even profound roles, instituting homophobia into our laws and transmitted it downwards onto society.

The other issue is that the ruling class here themselves perpetuate it through self-orientalizing myths of Asian Values, through rigid notions of Malay identity having to be Muslim, through ideological discourses surrounding the ephemeral concepts of race.

All this adds up and the leads to the present day homophobia you find here. It’s a sad reality.

From what I know prior to colonial influence entirely, same-sex relations were recorded in the Malay Annals. It is assumed that no moralistic attributes were given to such people, which would make it the norm in general history, to be fair.

I’ve read some articles that LGBT perceptions in the early 80s and prior, to be morally neutral and sometimes marked with curiosity and friendliness -even by police. I haven’t looked deeply on gay people specifically, but I assume that a similar case is to be made, which makes sense considering that just up north in Thailand, as we both probably know, a country that was never directly colonized, is probably the most LGBT friendly country in SEA.

[–] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup I agree with this 100%.

There are Westerners that view the work of LGBT peoples in Asia as conservative or self-hating because they portray our work for acceptance and equal rights as short-sighted or fulfilling heteronormative ideals.

But the reality is that importing individualistic conceptions of LGBT expression, in it’s especially liberal forms like homonationalism - is harmful as it actually creates disunity and actually lays the foundation for further capitalist intrusion of our social lives.

To speak in a more local sense, gender diverse expression and non-hetero sexualities in Southeast Asian history were more “progressive” and prevalent here than in European societies up until “direct” colonization.

For many people here, “progressive” isn’t necessarily a march to the future, but a look to the past for the practices and cultures that were destroyed with the invasion of Eurocentric Capitalism.

In fact here in Malaysia, transgender people were fully integrated into society and gender reassignment surgeries up were allowed until 1983 where a fatwa discouraged the practice.

Indeed, LGBT westerners need not be so critical about Global South LGBT struggles when their only achievement is pink imperialism.