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中国的最新发展, A place to learn about China, Chinese and China's latest developments, (Reddit's Sino)

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这是一个专门讨论中国、中国文化、中国语言和中国人的论坛。

~This~ ~is~ ~a~ ~forum~ ~dedicated~ ~to~ ~China,~ ~Chinese~ ~culture,~ ~Chinese~ ~language,~ ~and~ ~Chinese~ ~people,~ ~and~ ~China's~ ~latest~ ~developments.~

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这个论坛目前由一个不会说中文的人主持,他不是共产党员,而是一个反帝国主义、反附庸国的欧盟联邦主义者,他似乎在任何地方都找不到立足点,因为他国家的所有政党都是亲美附庸国的,所以暂时居住在这里。

~This~ ~forum~ ~is~ ~currently~ ~moderated~ ~by~ ~someone~ ~that~ ~does~ ~not~ ~speak~ ~Chinese~ ~and~ ~is~ ~not~ ~a~ ~communist,~ ~but~ ~an~ ~anti-imperialist,~ ~multi-polarist~ ~EU~ ~federalist~ ~that~ ~can't~ ~seem~ ~to~ ~find~ ~a~ ~foothold~ ~anywhere,~ ~as~ ~all~ ~political~ ~parties~ ~in~ ~his~ ~country~ ~are~ ~pro-US~ ~vassal~ ~state,~ ~so~ ~resides~ ~here~ ~for~ ~the~ ~time~ ~being.~

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US-backed news outlets love to exaggerate and complain about China's supposed anti-LGBT policies that don't actually exist. There's some really good discussion around this on r/Sino Reddit.

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[–] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

The issue is over here, although it may be easy to attribute homophobic attitudes to be external in origin, whether it was British colonization or Wahhabist-Salafist influence, it is much more complicated than that.

Obviously those 2 had it roles, and even profound roles, instituting homophobia into our laws and transmitted it downwards onto society.

The other issue is that the ruling class here themselves perpetuate it through self-orientalizing myths of Asian Values, through rigid notions of Malay identity having to be Muslim, through ideological discourses surrounding the ephemeral concepts of race.

All this adds up and the leads to the present day homophobia you find here. It’s a sad reality.

From what I know prior to colonial influence entirely, same-sex relations were recorded in the Malay Annals. It is assumed that no moralistic attributes were given to such people, which would make it the norm in general history, to be fair.

I’ve read some articles that LGBT perceptions in the early 80s and prior, to be morally neutral and sometimes marked with curiosity and friendliness -even by police. I haven’t looked deeply on gay people specifically, but I assume that a similar case is to be made, which makes sense considering that just up north in Thailand, as we both probably know, a country that was never directly colonized, is probably the most LGBT friendly country in SEA.