Cleggory

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[–] Cleggory@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Why are you desperate to change topics to make this personal?

Bin Laden

You think public support for his assassination is equal to public support for the Israeli genocide of Palestinians?

[–] Cleggory@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What cherry was allegedly picked in the comment you replied to?

AOC is somehow not an establishment democrat??

“She is working tirelessly to secure a cease-fire in Gaza and bringing the hostages home,” the Squad member said Monday night in championing Kamala Harris for president.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook-pm/2024/08/20/cease-fire-gaza-dnc-aoc-00175032

[–] Cleggory@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:

The acts that constitute genocide fall into five categories:

  • Killing members of the group

  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group

  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction, in whole or in part

  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

  • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/learn-about-genocide-and-other-mass-atrocities/what-is-genocide

A short list of official allegations of Israel’s genocide against Palestinians (Google):

South Africa's genocide case against Israel

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ordered Israel to prevent the destruction of evidence and ensure the preservation of evidence related to allegations of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

Israel's use of the "Hannibal Directive"

Israel has been accused of using its "Hannibal Directive" policy, which allows for the killing of Israeli soldiers and civilians to prevent them from being taken alive as prisoners of war. This policy has been criticized as a form of genocide.

UN reports

UN experts have reported "grave violations" committed by Israeli forces against Palestinians in Gaza, including "genocidal incitement" and the use of "powerful weaponry with inherently indiscriminate impacts." They have also cited evidence of Israel's intent to "destroy the Palestinian people under occupation."

Special Rapporteur's findings

The UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, Francesca Albanese, has found "reasonable grounds" to believe that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. She cited evidence of Israel's intent to destroy the Palestinian group, including causing serious bodily or mental harm, imposing conditions of life calculated to bring about physical destruction, and preventing births within the group.

Amnesty International's research

Amnesty International has gathered evidence of unlawful Israeli attacks in Gaza, resulting in mass civilian casualties. The organization has criticized Israel's failure to distinguish between military objectives and civilian objects, leading to indiscriminate attacks that are war crimes.

Other reports and allegations

Various independent reports and allegations have been made about Israel's treatment of Palestinians, including forced transfers, torture, and the destruction of infrastructure. Some have characterized Israel's actions as genocide, while others have criticized the use of the term without sufficient evidence.

[–] Cleggory@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Under federal laws, the US Department of State has a policy prohibiting weapons transfers when it’s likely they will be used to commit genocide, crimes against humanity, grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, or other violations of international humanitarian or human rights laws.

In February 2024, Veterans for Peace sent an open letter to the State Department and Secretary of State Antony Blinken, invoking these laws and policies, urging the termination of provision of military weapons and munitions to Israel.

[–] Cleggory@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does your logic apply to single issue (anti Trump) voters?

dumb as fuck

[–] Cleggory@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly! Only single issue "Orange man bad" voters are morally good!

Trump's hypothetical genocide is way worse than Harris' real life genocide!

Moral superiority belongs to supporters of Genocide Harris who promised to build the Mexican border wall!

[–] Cleggory@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The time to suddenly pull a principled stance about Trolleys out of your ass is not ten seconds before your inaction kills people.

So why do establishment liberals ignore the demands of progressives until it's time to suddenly demand their votes?

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