[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Debian is the best defense of the incident and I couldn't find the exact opposite way to them by now I am little bit of a political symbol that I am little more about business and I don't want you

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

No. I'm really not. And as I've explained so many times. There are evidence available to make that conclusion plausible.

The word you are looking for is proof. But you not understanding the difference between evidence and proof is another issue.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yikes, you really want to strawman this as hard as you can.

Not sure what you're quoting but it ain't me.

There is evidence to draw the conclusion that an estimate of 180k dead is plausible. Everything from the length of the war, the documented lack of aid reaching the region, the documented destruction of medical facilities to the The documented destruction of habital areas.

I understand fully that there are ~40k deaths reported from within. I think it's entierly plausible that the real number of deaths as an indirect cause of the war are far higher than that. Personally I think it's more than plausible. I think it's likely. But I'll stick with plausible just for you.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

It is based on evidence.

Evidence that very little aid is reaching Gaza. Evidence that clean water is difficult to come by. Evidence that 35% of their builds are severely damaged or destroyed. Evidence from previous wars and how the population were affected by similar conditions.

With those points of data. Qualified people can make estimations of what they think the number of dead might look like.

But there is no evidence to prove the estimation is correct right until after the war is over.

What you want to say, is that there's no proof. Which is correct. There is no proof for the figure. Because again. It's an estimation. There is a war. We can't go dig up the bodies just yet

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

We cook our food to kill bacteria.

Ever wondered why domesticated animals tend to become much older than wild animals?

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Gaza had an estimated population of about 2 million people.

We know that 35% of the buildings in Gaza is severely damaged or destroyed. Very little aid is reaching their target, hospitals are destroyed.

There is nothing disingenuous about me agreeing with them that it's plausible that an estimated number of deaths as a result from the war is up towards 180 thousand.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

We will not have any evidence until after the war is over and bodies can start being dug up from under the demolished buildings and infrastructure.

If you look at their wording they make it clear it's not "implausible" to believe the current toll including starvation etc is up towards or above 180'000.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

No, your reliance on AI shows you have little to no understanding in what they are and how they work.

They state very clearly how and why they arrive at these estimations. You have so many references and articles that they link you to, to show you where they are getting the information to come to their conclusion.

You are really sitting there saying you don't know how to fact check an estimate. Do you understand what an estimate is? how we reach estimates? What might make them more or less probable?

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

You think that is an argument? "Hamas" have used it, that's it? Hamas has also been using H20 in vast quantities. You gonna stop drinking water too?

"Are likely very off and purely fictional", If you were capable of reading it yourself instead of just letting your little AI bot do it. You would know why and how they arrive at these estimates. Since they list their sources and references that lead to their estimates. and what they are attributed to

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

And what makes you think "spinscore.io" is a bias free tool for fact checking or that they even check the facts at all? It's an "AI" of which you have no idea how it works or what it takes into consideration. As far as we know. It will suggest that you should put glue on pizza.

What gives "spinscore.io" any credibility at all?

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Carbon is no longer an element and doesn't exist.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago

Yes. They do. If you actually read them you would know. For example. In the second link. It's explicitly stated in the first paragraph.

A convoy of vehicles carrying fleeing civilians in Gaza that was hit by a deadly airstrike was travelling on one of the two roads identified by the Israeli army as “safe routes” to the southern half of the strip, according to analysis.

You must have "missed" that.

It's funny because any criticism you will drape it as antisemitism. The proof is so overwhelming. Bombing of safe routes, taking out hospitals as a first priority, little by little they are already reducing the strip to rubble. That's not me thinking they will. That's them currently doing it.

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