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[-] delirium@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] rosenjcb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not fake. You can look at my other screenshots. It's just not happening to you.

[-] anticommon@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This is why targeted media and advertisement is a bad idea.

It makes it incredibly easy to test people and put them into information silos where what you see is not what I see.

Yeah sucks back in the day on nationalized television one add would run cross country, but at least then you knew it was going to be scrutinized by a wide swath of individuals. Or maybe the segregation of information was not as widely considered then.

But now? We've seen how platforms can engage certain people and even cause mental disability through force feeding insane garbage at them. And the rest of us get to suffer for it, while being blissly unawares as to why.

[-] redditcunts@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Bug or most likely faked. I'm selling to bet this is a15 year old with a chip on their shoulder photoshopping shit.

Tech hate, so hot right now.

[-] rosenjcb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What do I need to do to prove it's not fake? Record the screen from another phone?

[-] JATtho@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

I recently switched my default search from Google to DuckDuckGo: Google has begun refusing to find anything while exact same search on DuckDuckGo just works. Google is slower because I have to think+ignore first half of the page due to Ads/SEO crud.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

When using Google to search the internet, one needs to select tools > verbatim for the search operators to work as expected. Even for simple things like double quotes.

[-] rosenjcb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Doesn't work but it does change the results??? https://i.ibb.co/wg4fdz2/Screenshot-20230706-080245.png

[-] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wrong. I regularly use "site:" all the time.

[-] melonpunk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'd recommend avoiding Google for web searching. Duckduckgo has been a good alternate for me for about 5 years now. I've heard that Bing is a good alternate, even though its a Microsoft service. ChatGPT is also a good option to compliment web searches, though I'd recommend getting a second result from another service if looking up an answer to a question, but when doing general questions/suggestions it can outperform a web search in both detail and ability to refine/filter.

Google is just a ranked ad delivery service based on an abused and gamed SEO system, it's fucking awful for delivering useful links.

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

There used to be a search engine called Dogpile that would aggregate results from a bunch of other search engines (so you'd see like, the top 5 or 10 results from each of the other engines), which was actually really rad for a long time. (It looks like they're still around, but are just a shitty normal search engine, now.)

It'd be neat to have something like that again, especially if it excluded sponsored links and highlighted results that were shared in the "top" results from more of the other services (and let you specify which search engines it was aggregating from).

[-] BobaFett26@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You might be interested in SearXNG: https://docs.searxng.org/

Edit: spelling

[-] melonpunk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think Hotbot did that back in the 90's, and it's relaunched (well, the name and domain have been put to use again) as a privacy focused search that combines an AI style question/answer style system as well as traditional link list result. https://www.hotbot.com

[-] inverimus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

DDG is mostly sourced from Bing already. It isn't hard to test this, just do a search on both sites in private mode and you get the same top results.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Still way better than Google in terms of sponsored results and ads.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I always have used inurl: instead to great effect. For instance if I wanted just the technology subreddit it would be inurl:reddit.com/r/technology

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

DuckDuckGo/Brave + Kagi.

Others, more specific uses:

[-] astramist@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow! This is the first time I've heard about Knaben Database, but it looks handy. Thanks a bunch for the recommendation.

[-] tsl@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's not that bad... Way worse is that Google will push your site to the 10th-or-so page abyss for minor problems yet they keep on showing more and more spammy sites (the ones which contain random sentences with your search term mysteriously embedded in the middle of them, without any kind of relevance, and with painfully obviously randomly generated domains... I still don't understand how do they manage to put the term you're searching right now into the search results.)

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why people use google in this day and age? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[-] theragu40@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope you are asking that rhetorically.

But if the question is serious, its because very many people grew up with google and got really good at using it. Got dependent on the certain idiosyncrasies of how Google presents its results. Got entangled in multiple other google services that make results more relevant.

I have my entire career because I was (and am) better than a lot of people at googling things. I hate what Google has become and I do have DDG as my primary search tool on my phone now. But it's really difficult to completely jettison google search and I do still use it fairly regularly. Even though they seem insistent on making their results as trash as possible.

If anything its at least pushed me to start thinking of search engines as tools, and that regularly using more than one might be a good thing.

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I don't use anything that's made or based on the US. Serious redflag!

[-] theragu40@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Eh. I guess I understand some suspicion, but for better or worse a very large portion of the internet is US-centric. It's pretty difficult to use any major internet content and avoid US based stuff entirely.

Also from what I've seen, while these companies may be US-based they 100% have their own profits prioritized over any national interests. I'd be surprised to learn of any kind of overt nationalism biased towards the US from Google, for instance.

[-] tendiemaster69@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I stopped using google as my main search engine about 4 months ago. Duckduckgo.com is comparable in most ways, except things like maps are a bit less visually enjoyable to use.

[-] nineninenine@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Honest question from someone ignorant on this topic -- what do you recommend for a search engine other than Google?

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Startpage, Qwant, Swisscow, SearX

If these don't work for you, try duckduckgo but I don't recommend it as its made and based in the US.

Any app thats developed and hoated in US is a serious threat. Use any app which are developed and hosted in the EU .

[-] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

As anti-Google as I am, this just looks like a bug, honestly.

[-] rosenjcb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It certainly does feel like it. I wonder how ads were inserted into the results and not marked as such.

[-] marmo7ade@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Photoshop? I just did this search on my phone, with chrome, all the top results are from reddit.com. There are ads at the bottom of the search results, after the "more search results" button, but not in the results themselves.

[-] rosenjcb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

https://i.ibb.co/wg4fdz2/Screenshot-20230706-080245.png

I honestly couldn't be assed to Photoshop. This only happens when I'm logged into my Google account. Incognito mode has regular results.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are the first two after the Reddit link unmarked sponsored results?

[-] rosenjcb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yup, it's all unmarked.

[-] tehmics@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Search operators have been worthless on Google for many years now. it's extremely frustrating when you're trying to sift through the SEO hellscape

[-] marmo7ade@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The search operator in this image works perfectly when I try it. πŸ™ƒ

[-] lanolinoil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

maybe try the inurl operator

[-] PasswordIsTaco@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

For those willing to pay. Kagi has been a total breath of fresh air.

I rarely have issues with content farms taking up the first page of results, all the Google search operators (at least the ones i relied on) with consistently again, you can block and/or weight results (no shitty pintrist results). It took me a while to come to grips with paying but so far it’s been very worth it.

Disclaimer: i have only been using it for about 2 or 3 months.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I switched to duck duck go back in the day cause I felt like the quantity of bullshit (not the ads but the ones that are supposed to help you with your search) were detrimental to my "keyword picking ability"... now going back to Google feels unreal

[-] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same here. DDG is so much better. And I love that I can do !mcwiki diamond to search the minecraft wiki for "diamonds"

I ended up switching because Google changed their image search design that was just so much more difficult to browse

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

My problem with ddg is that I can't refine my search by excluding keywords, only by adding more. For example, it's frustrating if I'm looking to buy a product locally and half the page is Amazon results.

[-] mundane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I add -amazon to the query on ddg I don't get any Amazon results. Is this not the case for you?

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It is not. It works fine for google, but not for DDG.

[-] mundane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That is weird. I wonder why we are seeing so different behavior from ddg.

[-] gamebuster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Google is just working hard to become less useful every day. I tend to use ChatGPT a lot instead of Google.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That seems rather risky, considering that they don't really check that they output accurate information, and OpenAI specifically recommends against using it for that due to the possibility of their GPT models outputting falsehoods as fact.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

As opposed to Google searching manually, which always has accurate outputs and never outputs falsehoods as fact. πŸ™‚

As long as you double check the source of an answer I don't see an issue.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you're double-checking the sources, both to make sure that they exist, and they are accurate, you may as well do the research without using an LLM in the first place.

You're just adding to your workload unnecessarily in that case.

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