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  • Volkswagen beat Tesla in European EV sales across the first three months of 2025, data shows.
  • Registrations for VW EVs are up more than 150%, while Tesla lost huge ground.
  • However, the Model Y and Model 3 remain Europe's top two most-registered EVs.
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[–] oliver@lemmy.skumring.com 3 points 6 hours ago

Now they could deal with their quality management in terms of software as a next, huge leap.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In fact it's even more crazy if you consider VW group:

Tesla Total 53,237

VW Group:
VW 65,679
Audi 34,739
Skoda 26,578
Cupra (SEAT) 18,878
Porsche 9,929

VW Group total 155,803

ratio 155803/53237 = 2.93
VW group has almost 3 times higher sales than Tesal!!

https://www.carscoops.com/2025/04/vw-finally-beats-tesla-outselling-it-in-q1-ev-sales-in-europe/

PS:
Stellantis:
Peugeot 24,397
Citroen 16,367
Opel 13,612
FIAT 6,825
Stellantis Total 61,201

Stellantis manages to clearly beat Tesla too!!

Edit: I forgot FIAT in the Stellantis numbers.

[–] Clanket@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

On my second ID4, and the wife has our first ID3. Lovely cars to drive, will never go back to an ice car again.

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[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (21 children)

Watch out for BYD from China.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (29 children)

Freaking hell Lemmy has a huge hard on for BYD.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not just Lemmy. Also Reddit

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

I don't go there anymore so I don't know 🤷

[–] trk@aussie.zone 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Can't speak for other countries, but in Australia BYD is smashing it.

They represent incredible value for money and it's not like we've got a local industry to protect - our conservative government made sure of that.

We're already the world's dumping ground for shit vehicles that don't meet emissions standards, so having a non-Elon Musk EV alternative is something people are grabbing with both hands. We bought a BYD Seal Performance for $70k AUD a little over a year ago. For that money you get an incredibly comfortable sedan that does 500k on a charge, costs about $1 per 100km to run, and does 0-100 in 3.8 seconds.

EU vehicles are crazy overpriced by comparison, and because they try and position Mercedes / BMW / VW as luxury brands here the servicing and repair costs are through the roof. Part availability also sucks, with everything being a 6+ week lead time. We've owned European vehicles on several occasions and never again.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What about Japanese options?

[–] trk@aussie.zone 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Like what?

Korea has a few (Hyundai, Kia / same,same) but the only Japanese options are [P]HEV or the Toyota BZ4X which is... ugly... if it didn't have a Toyota badge I don't think they'd sell any of them. Few old Leafs still hanging in there, but if you want to go more than 100k at a time that's them ruled out.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

300km+ range for the Leaf these days and they've got the Ariya that has over 400km of range, but I just checked and they don't seem to offer either in Australia...

Guess you're truly stuck with Chinese and Korean models then...

[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I only brought them up because I saw a news report that their dealerships are popping up and their starting price is much lower than Tesla. Like €17000.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

I've seen some videos on them. They look pretty nice but I worry about how they hold up and the build quality, as I would any relatively unestablished brand.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It’s more expensive. Like the byd Tang is like 150% the price of a vw id4

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

After Krasnov was elected, all big ticket items are on hold for at least two years. Bravo Volkswagen Group kicking Tesla in the nutsacks. Carry on!

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Somewhat amazed they've rebounded this much given the VW emission scandal some years back. Guess it wasn't that brand-damaging after all.

[–] Robbity@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Barely made a dent commercially, but put the company in a difficult financial situation where build quality was a bit lower and cars a bit more expensive for a while.

The point of these punishments should never be to kill a company, but to hurt investors, who are ultimately responsible for setting the CEOs agenda.

And, well, VW stock is still down about -80% compared to pre-dieselgate. So I would say eurocapitalism working as intended.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 22 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Tesla was the top EV seller in Europe? I'm surprised.

I'm guessing the top electric-only vehicle excluding hybrids and plug-in hybrids? In the two or three European countries I visit often you definitely see more of those, at least anecdotally. But maybe London City techbros and finance bros outweight everybody else? That seems plausible.

I have to say, I find all of these reports and investor analyses on Tesla's PR woes way too optimistic about how well they'll recover if and when Musk "steps away from the government". I really don't think that genie is going back in the bottle, guys.

[–] troed@fedia.io 25 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Don't know about "London City techbros and finance bros" but in Sweden and Norway we prefer pure EV over hybrids.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Tesla was the top EV seller in Europe? I’m surprised.

Not only that, A few years ago, Tesla was as big as all the rest combined!

I’m guessing the top electric-only vehicle excluding hybrids and plug-in hybrids?

That's how it should be, but in most cases it's not. 100% battery is called BEV now. But BEV sales have far surpassed plugin Hybrid (PHEV).

IMO a Hybrid plugin or not is NOT electric just as it is NOT an ICE, it's a hybrid of the 2! But Hybrids are generally counted as EV.

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