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[–] Codename_goose@sh.itjust.works 174 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t wait to not be able to order one.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Love the fact community is already mocking the fact they have distribution issues. While I had Twitter account their PR team was going full force demonstrating how it can be used and promoting projects that use it... all the while it's out of stock everywhere, constantly. I would have number of sites "notify" me when they are back in stock, only to be sold out seconds after. Luckily kind person shared a site which tracks where it can be purchased and for what amount but the mere fact such a tool has to exist just shows there's a serious problem.

[–] Jajcus@kbin.social 87 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Doesn't sound like the 'cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on' that the original Pi used to be. It is not as cheap and a power hungry beast, still small, though. More and more like a PC and less and less a small cheap embedded platform. For some people it is a plus (I guess for most people here), for some not so much.

I tend to build my projects on Raspberry Pi Pico now, but sometimes I would need something more powerful and Raspberry Pi 5 will be too much.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The project goal has never been a 'cheap small computer you can run your hobby electronics project on'. The whole point of the project is to build a small cheap PC to give away to school children to increase computer literacy, while making it attractive enough for normal people to buy to fund the charity side

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[–] hydroel@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't the Pi 3B still available for that kind of job?

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you can find a new one. They are $45+ on ebay used. None of the usual US sellers has any.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

I just noticed on rpilocator that there are a couple US sellers who have RPi4-1GB boards in stock for $35. I might have to try and snag one since my Kodi device has been acting up lately.

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I'm not sure I'd call 5 watts "power hungry."

[–] fleton@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Zero and zero 2 have decent stock anymore.

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[–] hackeryarn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I’ve used pine64 boards for this. They have a few more options and are always available.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can buy beelink small form factor pcs from Amazon for around $150 with cases and power supplies included.

[–] peregus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But...he said that it's not as cheap as it used to be and too power hungry and you propose an 150$ PC?

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m agreeing with them. By the time you buy the Pi 5, and all the add-ons you need, it’s going to rival these SFF systems with full x86 Intel chips with efficiency cores.

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[–] Surp@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sold by a scalper near you five seconds after it's sold out at launch

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was able to get rpi3bs easy...4 drops...never saw one that wasn't overpriced scalped shit.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

4s were pretty easy to find pre 2020, I bought one at launch and 2 more before the pandemic hit and I never paid more than MSRP for any of them.

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[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 43 points 1 year ago (8 children)

At $80 a pop, might get more oomph from an older optiplex if electricity cost isn’t too big of a concern?

[–] Goodvibes@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That display out will be hard to match with an old optiplex or laptop, but I agree, the pricing is getting less absurdly low and more just moderately low.

[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To be fair, I'm guessing the majority of Pi's are used headless anyway. Plus even the older Optiplexes have DVI, which is just HDMI without the audio or fancy stuff like ARC. Won't be getting 4K or anything, but still a very good video output and IMO adequate for almost all use cases.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I'm betting a decent amount of them are used as media PCs. The x265 decoding, 4kx60hz output, 2x speed ram and better wifi are much appreciated for that application.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Not to mention a used PC is upgradable and can run proxmox

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[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
IoT Internet of Things for device controllers
NVMe Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage
PCIe Peripheral Component Interconnect Express
PoE Power over Ethernet
RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC
SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SBC Single-Board Computer
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

8 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 9 acronyms.

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[–] GoOnASteamTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you friendly robot :) I couldn't stop assuming PoE meant Pillars of Eternity! 😅

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[–] Lasso1971@thelemmy.club 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Since switching my server to an x86 based platform, I'm not jumping back to arm any time soon. Maybe some day

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[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for my RISC-V boards. Fuck this.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Don't go for a Pi. They don't run stock Linux anyway.

I would get a board from pine64. There are also plenty of other options that are cheaper

Used mini PCs are also an option

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] andreluis034@lm.put.tf 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess he means that raspberry pi doesn't run a mainline kernel

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Precisely. You can't just boot up any arm image

[–] mara@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is true with ARM in general. There's no "standard Linux" to boot because every board needs its own device tree and set of core kernel modules for detecting important things like local storage. It's fairly intractable due to how different the hardware is.

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[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

They can, just need correct drivers. We have mainline Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu for them now.

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[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coming to a scalper near you!

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been eyeing an Orange Pi 5+ for my RPi4 upgrade


think I may stick with that route, but glad to see RPi putting out another model.

My experience with RPis over the years was that the multimedia was way better supported than alternatives, but for self hosting that's not really relevant for me (headless, and don't really care about transcoding).

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[–] Radium@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder why they didn’t add usb-c

[–] Midnitte@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Power is USB-C, but the ports aren't because most PC accessories are still USB-A

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Will it be able to run Jellyfin with 4K content?

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

I’m running Emby with 4k content from an Odroid HC-2. If you have a 4k TV it should support the H.265 codec without transcoding so the resources for sending videos is low.

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[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never got over social-media-a**hole-gate.

Out of curiosity is there an equivalent SBC to this new 5 model out there?

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