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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 148 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Reminder that their CEO unapologetically said that he doesn't think water is a human right.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other than Costco's CEO, every CEO is just a massive shitburger.

[–] dynamo@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (11 children)
[–] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

He’s been holding back half-life 3 his entire life. 100% evil.

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[–] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Also reminder that the US is the only country in the UN to vote against food being a human right.

USA 🤝 Nestlé

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Time to get the guillotines.

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[–] dojan@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Didn’t they kill babies too?

[–] HowShouldIKnow@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They also said "Chocolate without slavery? That's unpossible!"

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The crimes against humanity are what make it so tasty!

Well, that and the heaps of refined sugar.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's every large chocolate company though. Nestle just said the quiet part out loud. Even the ones that promise to use "ethical chocolate" are either unverifiable in their claims to begin with and/or have been exposed to be outright lying.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

There are smaller chocolate brands that do have verifiably ethical chocolate. The big companies do everything they can to crush those chocolatiers specifically. Often they do this by spreading rumors about how ethical chocolate is unverifiable or a lie.

It is tough, because there are so many intermediaries in the business, but it would actually be much easier for the larger corps because they have more resources and better leverage. There are also companies that just lie for profit.

Nestle could, with minimal effort, insist on a functional chain of provenance, and could easily fund all of the enforcement and verification efforts with money that fits into rounding errors on their balance sheet. They won't, because that helps every chocolate producer avoid supporting slave labor, and eventually it would go away. They want the waters muddy so they can continue to abuse children living in impoverished conditions for profit, while saying "yes, but nobody can verify their chocolate isn't prepared by child slave laborers."

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Yeah, or well, in theory their formula works, but given the realities of developing countries they knew they were killing babies when they introduced it there.

Didn't matter, made profits, line went up.

[–] Haziiieeeeeee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My comment was going to be. For poisoning a bunch of African children.

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I try to stay away from buying nestle stuff, but it's nearly impossible... they have their mitts in everything, even cat food. (Purina) They have over 2000 brands ffs. https://www.nestle.com/brands

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Really ought not buy their cat food though, at least not to feed cats. It’s horrible from a nutritional perspective.

Bad cat food is a major factor to feline obesity. Chonkers are not cute.

[–] Spuddaccino@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with the overall sentiment. The money you're saving in cat food is only going to lead to vet bills later on.

I'll fight you on whether or not chonkers can be cute, though.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Without context, absolutely cute. However, since pets rely on their humans for food, them growing obese is a sign of abuse/neglect (even if not on purpose). Then it’s less cute.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

at least not to feed cats

Well now I've gotta look into all the alternative uses for cat food.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I’ve a friend who fed worms on it. Basically fodder for fodder animals.

IIRC, ferret food. But it's probably not much better to feed it to ferrets.

[–] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you think it’s hard in developed countries(im trying not to make an assumption about where you live but assume it’s considered a developed country) you should see the issue in other countries. Maggi is one of the most popular brands in a lot of South Easy Asia; you see their sauces in most restaurants and the instant noodles are considered the best.

And the whole Japanese Kit Kat thing. I’ve seen store in SEA that have tons of different Kit Kats forms Japan because they have tons of flavours. Obviously this is also popular.

Nestle has dug themselves an entrenched position in SEA and will not give it up.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

They have nestled themselves into an entrenched position, lol

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm in Canada, and while there are some options they're usually more expensive or harder to find. I live nearly 50 km (30 miles) from the nearest city and the few local stores here have extremely limited selections which means I have to drive 100km (60 miles) round trip just to avoid giving nestle any of my money.

Usually it means a once a month road trip to stock up on stuff, but we still have to break down and bite the bullet every now and then when we run out unexpectedly.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 13 points 1 year ago

That's what you get if companies have no limit to growth.

[–] CeleryFC@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Buy Costco brand. I’m assuming they have cat food, been buying my dog food there for years.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are a few inaccuracies and simplifications here. Lactalis is independent from Nestlé, though they have a co-entreprise for dairy. For l'Oréal, it's a bit disingenuous to link both here because massive companies like that have a lot of mutual participations. And KitKat is manufactured by Hershey's in the US I think.

That being said, Lactalis is equally shitty so you can avoid it anyway. And the same goes for l'Oréal. I don't know about Hershey's but I could bet.

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[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Accurate except for the depiction of Nestle as if it fucking cares.

[–] EherVielleicht@feddit.de 99 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Perfection.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey now, let's not forget they killed babies too.

[–] 1st@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

Or that they use child slave labor.*

*Note: they don't own slaves just contract work out to slave owners

[–] Arethusa@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm amazed at how few people are aware of this, Fuck Nestlé!

[–] Arethusa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I learned about this at university. Wasn't sure I'd find mention of it online but it's out there. One of the many examples of corporations extra psychotic behavior in the Global South. IIRC they were keen on getting mothers feeding their babies formula particularly so their breast milk dried up and then they would have no alternative, becoming dependent and stuck in a financial bind.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They also made up the whole "energy gap" nonsense trying to convince children and parents that their sugar water is "healthy".

https://worldofbuzz.com/heres-need-know-viral-milo-sugar-controversy/

https://marketingmagazine.com.my/we-dont-need-no-sugar-daddy/

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Fuck nestle

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Today's subject: Slavery

[–] BurnedDonutHole@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

In most counties they just sell processed tap water.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

It's more like extortion. Steal the water, "purify" it, resell for exorbitant prices, infinite profit.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

nestle is for some reason the only brand that stores near me use for the powdered coffee stuff >_>

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] EherVielleicht@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Put it on hard-boiled eggs. Yummy.

[–] AngryMulbear@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Liquid MSG. Makes my shitty cooking taste good.

Like water for chocolate

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