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[–] Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The relationship between these two bordering countries will be most interesting to see, particularly heading more into the future as Vietnam continues to modernize and China as well. Like a mini experiment of communism, or the future of borders and how they will change or blur.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, DPRK might start becoming a bigger player now that sanctions regime has effectively failed.

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does no one remember Laos?

Either way, the more the better!

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They really do fly under the radar, as I recall China's also helping them build rail though while clearing out all the remnants of US bombings. So, things are really looking up there as well. I imagine once there's a big rail network connecting them all, there's going to be a big economic boom.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing that by the time they're done, California high-speed rail will still not be completed haha.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

lol that's pretty much a given

[–] RedColossus@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have bros who are reds in Venezuela, and they keep complaining that the government won't take the step from non-Imperial Core "Marea Rosada" socdem into actual socialism because they're terrified of being invaded and wrecked, Cuba is great but the material reality is that they simply do not have the funds to truly protect anyone but themselves. Vietnam is geographically blessed that they can have the space to get back onto the road of socialism after their stumbling in 1994 and 2001 having to "restructure their economy" (give in to liberalism) due to taking out loans with the IMF. Their future seems bright if they can forge a particularly strong relationship with the PRC. I'm sure they can crush the Yankee war machine a second time, but I understand 1000% why they're traumatized.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure, and I really hope China will start actively supporting socialist states around it now. Before the war in Ukraine started, China used to play it very safe geopolitically because they were always worried that US would go after their economy. Now they see how Russia managed to do just fine after a maximalist sanction regime from the west, and they can also see that US is actively and openly trying to kneecap them regardless of what they do at this point. So, the reasons behind the reservations China had before about promoting socialism aren't really there now.

While it made sense for China not to export ideology the way USSR did when the west was dominant, I think we're entering a period where building an ideologically aligned bloc is starting to look like the right approach. US has demonstrated that they're very good at doing political interference, and if China wants to have strong and stable allied then it has to start helping support principled socialist governments.

[–] RedColossus@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China has one enormous weakness it can not yet be bold in the ways Russia is. Oil/Petrol.

The PRC is not oil-rich in the same way Russia and the US are, so they import most of their oil via tankers from West Asia/North Africa (commonly known as the Middle East) and there are two potential chokepoints, the Straight of Hormuz in Djibouti (probably RIGHT NOW the biggest weak point, so much that both China and the US have military bases there that are practically in front of each other) and the South China Sea, which contains a bunch of faithful bootlicking nations such as Singapore and Australia.

China is working on several pipeline projects, but I am certain that the US is doing everything possible to stop it.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is true, but going forward China can get oil from Russia and Iran. Also worth noting that China's nuclear and renewable energy production is accelerating. Meanwhile, China has a huge amount of leverage over the west economically right now because lots of western companies are dependent on manufacturing in China. If the west tried to interfere with China's oil supply then China can crash western economies which are in an incredibly fragile state already.