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[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 hours ago

I live in the USA and its so bad i just cant interact with most people. They are basically entirely vibes based. They dont research anything if they hear a new claim they decide if its true based on if they feel like its true. You can literally show them evidence and most will be like "nah thats bs". I made a comment on 小红书 recently about how 54% of americans read below a 6th grade level and my replies are FULL of americans saying "uh i can read" .... can you really?

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 29 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Lisa's only mistake was saying yes.

Just do every single thing in socialism, but change every single word. Call it Americanism.

Proletariat? No, just "worker".

Bourgeoisie? No, just "elites".

Capital? "Stuff". Like how in baseball they say a pitcher's got good "stuff". Use your human stuff.

Class Consciousness - "common sense".

Dialectical Materialism - Idk I'm still trying to figure out wtf that one means.

[–] pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You people have good luck with this? I haven't. I don't find that you can just "trick" people into believing in socialism by changing the words. The moment if becomes obvious you're criticizing free markets and the rich and advocating public ownership they will catch on.

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago

Dialectical materialism -> Scientific materialism to distinguish it from the common usage of the world "materialism"

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

"All classes working together" as a counterpoint to socialism? Where have I heard of this before.....?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 42 points 6 hours ago

about what youd expect for a country thats been the global epicenter for anticommunist propaganda.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 60 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

American try to care one iota for your fellow man or really anyone other than yourself challenge (impossible):

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

During covid, going to a rural area in the US really got to me. The population is so individualistic / freedom-brained / "i do whatever I want all the time", that their grandmothers all dying meant nothing to them. I got mine keeps meaning smaller and smaller groups of people.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Which is surprising because up here in Canada, the socialism started with the farmers. And it's still going on with coop feed and grain silos and harvester sharing. Farmers don't let other farmers starve, in Canada.

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I got mine keeps meaning smaller and smaller groups of people.

What does this mean?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 hours ago

USonians used to be more community-focused. In the 1950s polio was eradicated due to massive community efforts, showing that they were willing to do things to benefit their community.

Nowadays they won't even do the same to benefit their extended families.

[–] Dhs92@programming.dev 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But when he says “smaller and smaller groups of people” does he mean that this kind of mentality isolates people to increasingly smaller groups?

[–] Dhs92@programming.dev 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It used to apply to different groups in the past.

Fuck you, my community got ours

Fuck you, my friend group got ours

Fuck you, my family got ours

And now we're finally at

Fuck you, I got mine

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 3 hours ago

As the number of people who got theirs diminishes, "Fuck you I got mine" will eventually decay to just "Fuck you"

[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

Dont you love individualism 🥰 /s

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world -5 points 1 hour ago

Apple's ecosystem is socialism and people seems to love it

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

Meanwhile, socialist Norway's wealth fund could maintain everyone's standard of living for 400 years if they stopped working right now.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Whenever people say this they neglect to point out that all the money came from selling oil.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 hours ago

They forget to point out that only dumbfuck yanks would consider Norway to be socialist, so the comment, in a meme community, is misleading from the get-go.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

norway isnt socialist. they just excel at exporting capitalism's issues to the third world.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

In a democratic state, things like universal healthcare are also called "socialized medicine" because it is an example of the people owning the means of production in that particular industry.

That's why most countries are what we call "mixed economies", that mix elements of capitalism and socialism.

Norway mixes in a higher ratio of socialism to capitalism than most countries. But they don't export any more of capitalism's issues to the third world than other countries. It's something to emulate, not discredit.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

and in a demoratic world norway wouldnt be doing tax-free extrativism in my country (and others'), so that you can pay for your socialized medicine in a capitalist economy, where the money to finance it can't come from the rich owners.

[–] Edie@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That’s why most countries are what we call “mixed economies”, that mix elements of capitalism and socialism.

No. They are capitalist.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 0 points 51 minutes ago

I'm not sure how that link is supposed to refute anything? It says basically what the comment above says without using the phrase "mixed economies".

If you meant the power structure and public/private balance is heavily capitalist for Nordic countries then you'd probably want to post something else supporting that statement.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

"We should emulate the imperialist welfare state not discredit it!" 我不喜欢你鬼。 《 。…… 。》

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 hours ago

of course not, you can bet that "wealth fund" is invested in institutions that leech of the global south.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Hmmm, interesting. But what if we gave it all to one guy?

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[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Norway is a capitalist country. It us an OECD hanger-on to the US-led imperialist world order.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

thats not something to boast about, it tells how deeply embedded the nordic socdems are in financial parasitism aka imperialism.

living off interests is parasitism

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"if we all work together regardless of class" collaborationism is bourgeoisie propaganda and is not tolerated here, Comrade. Please face the wall.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 3 hours ago

america is a classless society because even the upper class is still powerless in the face of the corporatocracy

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (4 children)
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