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it's like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won't do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What's the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That's unfriendly to say the least.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not a Republican but big US billionaires recently cashed out their stocks.

https://finbold.com/warren-buffetts-cash-pile-hits-334-billion-record-high-what-does-it-mean/

Trump imposing moronic tariffs will crash the market and the Billionaires can buy back cheap.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Buffet has a long history of stockpiling cash when the market becomes far too speculative. He’s also flat out said millionaires and billionaires aren’t taxed fairly compared to the working class.

I think Trump is trying to appeal to blue collar workers who have seen their jobs disappear. Tariffs are his ham fisted way of trying to appeal to them.

Trump is a fool though. It isn’t the 60s anymore and manufacturing won’t work in the US without inputs from Canada and Mexico.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

The entire narrative that the US doesn't have a manufacturing industry or blue collar work is largely a myth anyway. The US has a $2.4T manufacturing sector, which is larger than the entire GDP of Canada. There are also plenty of blue collar jobs in the trades.

This "problem" never gets solved because there is no problem. But the media of course continues to help Republicans gaslight us about it.

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[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 70 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump only ran to stay out of prison. Now he's ripping the copper out of the walls to get as much money as he can before it all collapses under his ineptitude.

Elon thinks he's gonna be a trillionaire at the top of a technofeudal oligarchy. (He wants to be Arasaka from Cyberpunk but he's gonna have a hard time doing that while all his businesses fail.)

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago

PLEASE let them both end up in the poor house. That'd make me SO happy!

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago

there's no republicans on lemmy lol

[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

The point?

I see it like this.

Profit profit profit at the expensive of all Americans for 4 years.

The next 4 years let Democrats clean up the mess, Democrats are weak anyway.

Then milk the American people again for another 4 years. The cycle is nonstop.

This is malicious greed but everyone keeps thinking these people are idiots.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 days ago (12 children)

You probably won't get too many of those to answer your question on Lemmy.

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[–] mousefad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

Stock market manipulation. Look at who moved in to make big trades after the market plunged. Follow the money.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 days ago

Project 2025. The goal is to remove all tariffs and other limitations against the US.

Canada for instance has laws on antibiotics for dairy, foreign ownership for banks and telcos, various things like that. India has tariffs on everything.

The document outlines crazy things like capital punishment and a border wall, its clearly Trumps handbook. It's all in there.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"What's the point?" The point is to seize power and get rich.

They will destroy whatever they want or need in order to become rich and powerful.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

and to deliever america (and greenland and canada) to russia, for their master Putin.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I haven’t seen any republicans here so I’ll also offer my opinion as a sane person ….

  1. Narcissism. There is only me, and other. There are no allies, just suckers. it’s all about me. Right here. Right now.
  2. Bullying. Trump styles himself as a great negotiator but from the outside it looks a lot more like bullying. And if you believe his commitments, you’re a sucker. He thinks this is “making deals” but is the only way he knows how to operate
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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

fascism must always create more outsiders, must always create more enemies to keep control, to keep things directed.

remember, fascism appropriates genuine upset and the fact that to the privileged, equality feels like persecution. it steers itself by creating enemies to hate. remember: people's lives are genuinely fucking miserable. there is dystopian shit happening. and all of that is really complicated, and if people stopped to think about it for five minutes, they would pull a 1789.

so they just keep adding more enemies, and more derangements like what the qanons call 'baking' but hitler just said was the way everyone should read books, until they live in a totally unhinged fantasy world, and any method of social control must engage with the fantasy.

tl;dr: sacrificing external allies to fuel a persecution complex, keep control, entrench the madness, keep attention off the american elites that were at least rhetorically some of the initial targets.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Classic fascist strategy.

This country is circling the toilet FAST.

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[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not a Republican. I assume Trump is making backroom personal deals to get the world's politicians and businesses to bribe him in some way. Aligns with how he seems to operate with everything else.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You won't get logical answers to this because there isn't one. Maybe they're just that dumb. Maybe they just want to tank the economy a bit so the rich and gobble up more during the dip. Maybe they just actually love Russia. Maybe they're being secretly black mailed by Russia.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I do think it's a Russia thing. Putin getting America to alienate all of its closest allies, so that it's only Russia left to aid.

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 414 points 4 days ago (23 children)

The people you need to hear from aren't using Lemmy.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Easy answer. The entire Government of Putin is working for shit Kremlin.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago

Isolating the US and breaking US hegemony. Trump is a Putin puppet, and what’s best for Russia is crippling the US economically and diplomatically. Alienating the EU cuts off the EU from the US who would otherwise help the Europeans against the Russians as they try to reclaim their former territories.

This also helps China who is trying to replace the US as the world superpower. BRICS is doing a good job of creating a competing economic alliance, and the US falling apart helps make it more attractive.

Not a conservative, by the way. Just someone who follows the news.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

To own the libs

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 36 points 3 days ago (9 children)

While I have no issue with Republicans being shunned for their unashamed fascism, it does mean threads like this are essentially pointless because almost none will actually participate and the ones who do will be downvoted into oblivion.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

thier ally is PUTIN, thats all they need. ive seen them shill hard for putin, one asians youtubers acc, have been shilling for rich white people and russia see the common thing, before they went full maga.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 115 points 3 days ago (6 children)

You're never going to get a satisfying answer to this question, because there is no actual reason. If you want, you can go peek in on the conservative subreddits and watch their gold-medal winning mental gymnastics, but the reason Trump is doing this is Putin told him to. The U.S. is destroying themselves for no gain.

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