When the people who invented Nazis are pissed about your Nazis, you’ve got a problem with Nazis.
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Now we need to do the AfD next, bevor we have the next Nazis on our hands. And their populist propaganda is seeping in steadily, fueled by massive and endless hate campaigns from the BILD boulevard piece.
They are polling really really high in many states, top in some even, despite having absolutely no plans or desires to do any politics. All they can do is rage and yell about immigrants, current politicians, taxes, joblessness, the EU, laws, Ukraine, everything. And they also successfully did this thing where they are selling their idea that they are "for the people" and "the will of the people", yet the elected politicians they do have have consistently (and I mean it, not a single exeption) voted in favor of taxing the working class and making it easier for the ultra-rich. Surprise, surprise.
The same is happening in Sweden with the neo Nazi Sweden Democrats (disclaimer: they prefer being called "social conservatives" while simultaneously calling for the "deportation of asocial foreigners"). The only difference is, these ones have a plan, a really shitty one, and now by forming a bloc and becoming part of the government without any posts, they are effectively trying to apply each one of their weird proposals even though a number of them may require that they leave the EU. They think UK is doing a good job with immigration...
Whenever any nation wants to leave the EU, I immediately suspect they are up to a human rights violation.
Edit:typo
Lol, the UK are doing worse with immigration than before Brexit.
Some people really use any lies to make people support their outrageous claims like leaving the EU.
I wouldn't be surprised if Russia was helping behind the scenes with it, they want the EU to fail so they can conquer even more territories.
Russia know they can't fight NATO. So they make like-minded autocratic friends like Erdogan, Orban, Trump & try to soften NATO members' stance towards Russia. The hope is that some, if not all the major NATO member countries will self-radicalise & see nothing wrong with what Russia or China does. Clever & obviously working.
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Can they please conduct raids here in the US too
Thanks
God imagine the heads exploding if an EU or UN force raided some hick compound.
Hopefully literally.
Let me guess, the related nazi group in the US is protected under at least ten amendments to continue being nazis.
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It's about time we stopped protecting Nazi politics under the rubric of 'free speech'.
The countries that don't do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it's just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.
Agreed.
It's like allowing ISIS to parade in the streets. Same terrorist ideologies.
The countries that don't do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it's just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant.
They want to silence and kill the majority of the population - stopping them from being able to do that by whatever means necessary is the pro-free speech move.
...also, stomping Nazis is fun - I recommend trying it.
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Get every last one of these fuckers!
I wish we would do it more often. But in fact west-germany and now whole germany always were slow in fighting against Nazis. Currently we have an extreme right-wing party in our parliaments. Many say they're all Nazis and our secret services say that large parts of them are Nazis. It's not funny anymore. Many people are thinking about leaving the country, especially jews. And if they're going to win the first big elections in the next few years, this won't be funny. Democracy will fail in germany, if we don't do anything about it. I am talking about AfD. https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/thueringen/umfrage-landtagswahl-sonntagsfrage-100.html if you look at the charts, you'll see that they're already the biggest force in Thüringen (one of our states). It's scary. Here's a source of our secret services, that they're extreme right-wing: https://verfassungsschutz.thueringen.de/rechtsextremismus/rechtsextremismus-thueringen/verdachtsfall-afd It says that parts of the party are a threat to our democracy.
There will be nowhere to run including worldwide because it's happening in every country even USA, Italy, Poland. You have to protect your country from within by participating politically. I sometimes wonder if this started with Putin helping install shadow candidates in various countries to make them dictator friendly but it's hard to say if it was that or happened organically.
It didn't start with Putin. It started with destabilizing the socialistic states and fighting the left. You can argue that the socialism wasn't good, I am fine with it - but you have to understand that this was the beginning. You can begin with Italy, after ww2 it became nearly socialistic - the US were against it. Same with Poland, it became far right after the fall of the USSR. And even Russia - you know where it started? 1994 after Gorbashev. And now we have the problems starting in germany, in east-germany. After the end of the GDR there were nobody who fought against Nazis. They spread like hell and even the secret services ignored it. Now 30 years later we have huge problems. I don't know if everybody remembers, but there was Rostock-Lichtenhagen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fiEHBGknF4) - it was nearly after the reunification. In the GDR this would've been impossible, in new germany even the politicians participated with the demonstrations (at the beginning, later with escalation it changed). It was horrible. Nobody wanted to see it. They had 30 years time.
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And while they're at it, get rid of the BILD for being a large part of how the AfD successfully managed to sell their "we're the will of the people"-propaganda, because they push their hate lines consistently and ceaselessly.
You can't get rid of BILD, because of press-freedom. It's very very difficult. You're right, if you're saying they're a big problem, but they're not extremistic. If you look at NIUS on the other hand - WTF! NIUS of openly everything, you think BILD is already. There is something big coming and I am really afraid of it. And yes, NIUS is from Reichelt, the guy who was kicked out of BILD.
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Now that’s fantastic news!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
BERLIN (AP) — The German government on Tuesday banned the neo-Nazi group Hammerskins Germany and raided homes of dozens of its members.
During the early morning raids in 10 states, around 700 police officers searched homes of 28 group members.
“According to our findings so far, significant amounts of right-wing extremist devotional objects have been seized in addition to cash,” the minister said.
Ahead of the ban, the German federal and state governments cooperated intensively for more than a year, Faeser said, adding that “we also worked closely with our American partners.”
The purpose of the association Hammerskins Germany is to consolidate its right-wing extremist worldview, particularly through concerts where it tries to appeal to non-members to radicalize them, the ministry said.
“Right-wing extremism remains the greatest extremist threat to the basic democratic order in Germany,” Faeser told reporters in Berlin.
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