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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 33 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I seem to remember that Switzerland has a history of profiting from their relationships with Nazi's. Thus they might not be a good source of advice as to what to do about Nazi's.

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world -2 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

It's dumb to call Trump a nazi and the populist wing of the Republican party nazis.

It's not even clever at this point, maybe it was edgy and transgressive like 7 years ago.

The reason it's dumb is that you are wasting all of your powerful language and you will have no more if things get worse. Boy who cried wolf. Just like people did to racist which used to carry great power and now is basically meaningless as a powerful descriptor.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 minutes ago (1 children)

It’s not even clever at this point, maybe it was edgy and transgressive like 7 years ago.

Are you really this childish that you genuinely think the only reason people might suggest Trump is a fascist is because it was "edgy and transgressive"? Not the fascist rhetoric, increasingly fascist policy and the various fascists he's willing to work with and support?

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Nazism is a very small subset of fascism, they are not equivalent. Nazi also carries VERY heavy baggage which is inapplicable to Trump. Use the right terms.

[–] nb_mess@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, the proton ceo is a trump supporter? What the fuck, he's the last person I thought would do that

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

No, I would not describe him as a trump supporter. I would say that he's a right-wing "Libertarian" tech-bro that has no clue about American politics, just spewing his uneducated bs because he thinks he's some genius. He might be a CERN scientist, but he's a dumbass when it comes to American politics.

(But it is concerning to have such an idiot on the board of the Proton Foundation)

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 minutes ago

Considering how he runs a business whose goal is to capture the privacy crowd and how a large portion of the privacy crowd is made up of those "Libertarian" tech-bro types, it might be more than just "no clue about American politics", especially since he's also doing stuff like promoting Bitcoin through Proton Wallet which is also popular among "Libertarian" tech-bro types, and the article used for marketing that both-sidesed the problems the "left" vs "right" experience and equated the Democrats with the "left", which is popular among "Libertarian" tech-bro types as well. The 88 in his Reddit username is also suspect regardless of him claiming that it's there because it's his birth year. People who know how to operate a business usually aren't doing it out of stupidity, so I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this, especially since the entire platform depends on trusting that they aren't doing anything shady.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Sounds like the CEO of proton doesnt understand the basic privacy concerns for the US VPN market. He should really look that up someday-- theres money to be made in the Us market if he cared enough.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago

the comments in that thread is such a reddit moment

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 148 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I can't be the only one who struggled to read that, and for general accessibility purposes since I'm already here:

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andy1011000 Proton CEO posted:

"People honestly seem to forget that I live in Switzerland, where Republican/Democrat doesn't mean anything, and Trump isn't even on our ballot to be voted for..."

Onyx376. replied:

"The point is that fighting for a more just and equal society is not just about fighting for the fundamental right to privacy but also for all other fundamental rights, including individual rights and life. When you, as the CEO of a company that starts from these principles, nod positively to whatever action a political figure like Trump, who is known for always flagrantly putting his private interests ahead of those of his own nation, makes speeches about eliminating minorities, hurting their rights as citizens and flirting with Nazi movements, it is understandable that members of the privacy community are disappointed as this reveals a little about who is being the face of a company that should follow contrary principles. But now we really know what "freedom" means to you."

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Doing the Lord's work right here. I absolutely cannot stand screenshots of desktop apps.

Mobile screenshots will be readable on both mobile and desktop.

But desktop screenshots are only readable on desktop.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

The motherfucker lives in Switzerland and he supports Putin's Sock Puppet. Fuck Andy. The USA will regress further away from the Swiss standard of living, which is what the USA should be striving for.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 33 points 8 hours ago

Americans are not flirting with Nazism. They dated it, married it and had many children with it.

Ridiculous.

He specifically started talking about American party politics, unprompted, making sweeping statements about both Democrats and Republicans. NOW he wants to blame us for...being concerned with his views on American party politics? Dude. Get real.

Saying stupid shit now and then is forgivable, but not if you take it in as the new nucleus of your public image. Why do so many public figures have this compulsion to double down combatively?

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Now to reply to the post itself, I think this sums it up:

As we say in Germany, if there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

Though the sad truth is that almost every single product or service we use are owned and run by people with similar opinions, it is literally the nature of the capitalist beast, it's how it function, and why it will always decay in to fascism - because those with the power and the money (not just those at the very very top, but several levels bellow them, too, like this guy) will always and forever care solely about maintaining it and creating more for themselves, that's it. And to do that, they have to side with whichever dictator-du-jour benefits them the most.

Remember - there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and this is only one of the reasons why.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Dont post pictures of text without links to the source

[–] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 hours ago

Sorry. I've already added it.

[–] atmur@lemmy.world 88 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit he's still arguing with people about this today?

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.org 53 points 10 hours ago

He’s well on his way to reaching Muskian levels of failure to shut the hell up.

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