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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 13 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

These people are poorly informed, Loops already exists

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 hours ago

His "job" is to go on stage places and be overconfident. Being informed is not part of that job.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

“Exists” yea but not really usable, it’s more raw than Pixelfed

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

His heart is in the right place but money has twisted his mind so much his heart had to go along with it to survive

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I swear, we're just witnessing the next power-grab by people richer than us.

Anyone who isn't advocating for Mastodon, the federated option, is either a fool or being fooled.

[–] OmnipresentWalrus@feddit.uk -2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

ATP is also federated, and the model is much more scalable than ActivityPub. You're already free to host all of your Bluesky account and all your posts on your own PDS. They're opening up the other services to federation as they reach maturity.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes I am also curious why you say one is more scalable. What's the diff?

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

and the model is much more scalable than ActivityPub.

How so?

They’re opening up the other services to federation as they reach maturity.

Why are they waiting? Why should we trust them?

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Stupid. There are already alternatives. Nobody wants them.

No matter how good you make it, now that tiktok was taken from people any app will just be the tiktok replacement being forced on us instead of a worthwhile social media unto itself.

It's not like twitter which sold its own soul and was subsequently run into the ground. I think any attempt to replace tiktok will just piss people off, especially if they're clearly American corporate enterprises.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 hours ago

Zuckerberg is giggling at you.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago
[–] Ketchup@reddthat.com 25 points 18 hours ago

No. Fuck you Mark. Corpocrats don’t get it. The community likes this momentum. We like meeting Chinese people. We like the fediverse. Stop trying to charge us for the use of the public square

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

why are they so hellbound on avoiding the fediverse

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Rich people = successful therefore they should control everything because its obviously the only way for that thing to be successful because success = revenue. According to rich people that is.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago (3 children)
[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

No money in Twitter either

Yeah it's kinda sad, that open source gets so little love in terms of money.

I would hope that the EU may help here, and in very small steps, that is true, but there could be so much more money (which would still be very little to the EU) that would have a significant effect there.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

There is, just not a lot and not for a giant central company that controls it.

You can have a private instance, you can have premium accounts on instances, companies can have their own instance.

There is

Compared to what corporate has it's basically no money...

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

A paid instance with high quality UI/ux and stability would actually be good. They can display ads to their hearts content. It just requires them to take the risk and develop it. There is already a solid base to start.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I can tell you right now, that I have no intention of watching ads. That's the reason I came here to begin with

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Thats fine no one is saying you should watch ads. The discussion is that VC people need to build a brand new app on the AT protocol because there is no money in the fediverse. But everything they want to build on AT can be done on Activity pub. As long as they arent federating the ads then no one outside their instance should care.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There still no money in federative your content and not getting paid for it

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 8 hours ago

Not the point. Not what I was saying at all.

The point is AP is a platform for anyone to build their app on. If someone wants to build an app they can build it with their own UI/algo/whatever feature and monetization model they want. They don't need to go to AT for that. As long as their ads(or however they choose to monetize) isnt federating to other instances then no other fediverse users would care.

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