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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world
 

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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don't care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal "Chinese spy," while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

"This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren't controlled by the same few oligarchs," Quintin said. "People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks."

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Where were people's protests & complaints when the US government were first proposing the ban?

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 23 points 19 hours ago

Apparently some Israeli-Americans went on Red Note to specifically asked Chinese people what they thought of Israel, and users basically said they were "Devil's on this earth for killing babies" which like...damn. Even through the Great Firewall they aren't beating the allegations.

So I'm sure the Israeli lobby will get that banned next, we shouldn't worry.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fediverse fanboys when they realise that their obscure and socially complex software isn't know by many people specially outside of the tech bubble, and that it's not the same experiences that they will get with their known platforms:

edited Gru with an uncanny smile

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 27 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

As someone who isn’t tech savvy I only joined the fediverse when I had no other choice when Apollo shutdown (except of course going back to Reddit)

Heck when I heard talks of lemmy hearing the word servers was enough to spook me out of joining until last minute

I had a point in here somewhere but I’m so tired i lost it so feel free use your imagination

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[–] watty@lemm.ee 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I used to think that the perceived complexity of the fediverse was creating a hurdle for more adoption.

Now all these fucking people are learning Chinese to better use RedNote.

Apparently convenience isn't actually a barrier? I'm baffled why so many people are flocking to anything other than the fediverse.

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 10 points 15 hours ago

A big barrier is the UI, the default lemmy UI is terrible.

The apps aren't great either, I'm very techy and haven't found one feels as nice as reddit (and the reddit app has many issues)

Normies just aren't going to push past all those barriers

[–] nroth@lemmy.world 34 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I think it's probably marketing more than convenience

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 17 points 23 hours ago

I agree. You have to either be in the tech sphere or privacy sphere to know about fediverse apps. Outside of reddit refugees I don't think anyone using the normal apps know about fediverse options or what that even means to be decentralized. I don't think it's really a functionality or convenience issue, we really need our own special interest groups or something to help with fedi app branding and PR. Not sure if that is even something that is crowd sourceble?

[–] witten@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It's marketing, but it's also the value proposition. Average Joes don't see the value in decentralization, privacy, or the freedom from corporate control. Although that may change under an authoritarian regime....

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

show me a federated system that has a bunch of cool tiktoky videos….
afaik, it’s mostly text and that much data would be a huge problem

[–] amon@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Loops by Pixelfed

IMO it is DOA because the whole point of TikTok is the feed algorithm. You're not supposed to pick what to watch, the algorithm knows your interests. The idea of TikTok therefore is fundamentally unethical and any libre alternatives will be hindered by the fact that users want the unethical part which no developer should or wants to implement.

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[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

Ptime example:

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They want a platform that isn’t controlled by oligarchs yet they go to a platform that is controlled by the CCP, interesting

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean the CCP isn't an oligarchy; it's an old school dictatorship.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You have been site-banned from .ml

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

In addition, every hour, on the hour, a jackbooted wannabe PLA soldier that looks remarkably like they could be any random 15 year-old kid from Cleveland will be at your door to read- and mispronounce several paragraphs of The Communist Manifesto.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

TikTok doesn't want the data of the average person becaue they aren't valuable in any way.

TikTok is being blocked because they can manipulate their algorithm to feed influencers to them that push pro-Chinese stances.

Imagine a hypothetical hot war between the US and China where China is telling a significant number of the US population what to think. I specifically say it that way becaue I don't believe any US company has a significant user base is China.

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 6 points 21 hours ago

And because of the potential blackmail stuff I suppose

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 127 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Lemmy doesn't have the censorship and speech-control from those platforms, but it pretty much distributes your data widely to anybody that asks for it.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 128 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hear me out: if you post stuff publicly, it is out there. The issue is data that shouldn’t be public getting public

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

This is it. A strong public domain benefits everyone. It is why open source software works.

On that note, I’d be shocked if one or more of the alphabet agencies haven’t developed a half-duplex version of the fediverse platforms purely for surveillance purposes. The openness of the ecosystem is really nice, but the default promiscuity of the protocols in question does have some specific and notable drawbacks.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AFAIU Lemmy sends your username, a user ID, and URI along with your message. That's pretty innocuous.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

It's way less innocuous than you think.

But yeah, it's only the stuff that you'd expect it to send. And only the stuff it needs to send. But the thing is, the valuable data those social networks gather is almost exactly that. They will invade your privacy and get everything they can, but the real value is on that and what you read. (What you read isn't shared here.)

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Content sure, but not where you are when you posted it and other meta data

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

FWIW Pixelfed's been growing like crazy the last couple days

Source: https://pixelfed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

edit: loops has a much smaller userbase but has also gained active users in the last couple days: https://loops.fediverse.observer/dailystats

[–] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not the first on the app store, unfortunately...

I understand people arguing that a lot of advocacy work is on tiktok, hence it is important; but I really wish good people can advocate on good platforms, instead of monopolistic data-hungry tech oligarchs.

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 5 points 19 hours ago

People so stupid

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (19 children)

They’d be right at home at .ml

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not everyone who is willing to use redbook is interested in the authoritarian gatekeeping done in the outrage farm known as lemmy.ml

You might be surprised to learn that there are plenty of leftists who aren't interested in marxist-lenninism at all

Sir we're all outrage farmers, it's why we (mostly) left Reddit.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like your welcoming attitude! /s

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I do find it kinda funny that that the US gov. Was using "CCP propaganda" as an excuse to ban a platform of expression, and now many of those users have begun using an app that actually has a history of defending the CCP

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Personally I just like the fuck you energy behind it all.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (15 children)
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