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show me a federated system that has a bunch of cool tiktoky videos….
afaik, it’s mostly text and that much data would be a huge problem
pick one
Loops by Pixelfed
IMO it is DOA because the whole point of TikTok is the feed algorithm. You're not supposed to pick what to watch, the algorithm knows your interests. The idea of TikTok therefore is fundamentally unethical and any libre alternatives will be hindered by the fact that users want the unethical part which no developer should or wants to implement.
Sounds like they're actually rolling out a for you feed in the near future
I don’t see why the concept should be unethical.
In practice, of course it is insanely unethical as the algorithms are designed to maximize view time which leads to algorithmic radicalization and hate spreading more quickly, but the concept of an algorithm knowing and learning what you like and selecting for you itself isn’t unethical.
Unless you host it yourself, you have practically given away your soul to an instance operator
It’s expensive for video though.
In other words, I have a hard time seeing Pixelfed with a high quality "benign" TikTok algorithm. It’s already possible for music, but video data\analysis is just so voluminous that, without the profitable exploitation backing it, I don't see how they'd pay for it.
It’s like engineering drugs specifically targeting reward systems of the brain associated with human emotional development and socialization.
Edit: more explicit
I'm sorry, say that again?
Besides the fact that it’s quite difficult to do this non-invasively, giving anyone instant access to any amount of exactly what they want most is ~~dangerous~~ (Edit: likely irresponsible, potentially dangerous, like designing escapist drugs, fine line between helping and hurting, and you must consider both).
Definitely find lack of care on the part of fellow computer scientists irresponsible. I’ve rejected grant followups for thinly veiled weapons research for the same reason; i.e., potential misuse.