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[–] sebb@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The "logic" goes like this: (sarcasm)

It's ok to burn down the planet for profit. It's ok to destroy the ecosystem on which we all depend for food, clean water. It's ok to make bombs and sell them to those dropping them on hospitals and children. It's ok to pollute the air with deadly particles no one can avoid.

But you just CANNOT... you just CANNOT be in a way of someone carrying a few tons of steel of a metal cage through a city. That's not something that we as a society will accept

[–] muculent@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Should we tell them their family joined the protest?

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago (58 children)

My favorite retort to those advocating for running over protesters:

If it's OK for you to run over protesters blocking your path on the highway, it's also OK for me to set fire to your car if you park it in the bike lane.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but to know which car to burn down you'd have to see them run over you and by that time ur dead.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can any lawyers answer this:

If the person driving that vehicle did end up running someone over, and had that sign in the window, would they get an elevated charge?

To me, that sort of thing is like premeditation, and it would be extremely hard for me to believe that an “accident” led to them killing someone with their vehicle.

[–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Not a lawyer but, premeditation isn’t what you think it is; one can premeditate an action in seconds, the concept really just conveys that the individual had time to think of the consequences.

But yeah, a sticker like this would certainly hurt the case of any defendant. It wouldn’t likely get them any modifiers (though it would help), but it could definitely affect a judge’s decision on how much time they should serve.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Not a lawyer, but I think stuff like this is a minefield. The defense would try to get it thrown out as prejudicial and without the suspect testifying all they could do is show a picture to an officer of it who affirms that he saw it on the car and enter it into evidence, but they could only indirectly talk about it in opening and closing because nobody can personally testify about the motivations behind the sticker.

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[–] Isa@feddit.org 227 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Splattering lives is okay,but shattering such windows is the promotion of violence? Honestly? 🔨

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 130 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

In capitalist US, property is more valuable than human life.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 66 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Remember: You can take lives to protect property, you cannot damage property to protect lives.

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[–] Kuinox@lemmy.world 106 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Double standards

Edit: my mistake, it's not visible on the screenshot, but the "i hope you get shot" didn't get removed for promoting violence, there is no mod reply to it.

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (53 children)

This is reddit mods in a nutshell

Similar story to how I ended up IP banned.

Story about a politician advocating for killings and kangaroo court imprisonments> i make a comment saying "yeah this guy is gonna end up dead if he tries this" > banned for threats of violence. .. appeal, arguing that it wasn't a threat. Just an acknowledgment of political volatility.. suggested mods were politically biased for seeing it that way. > appeal rejected and permabanned

edit - I understand reddit mods dont issue IP bans, but I was hit for ban evasion after abandoning a cooked account that they refused to let me appeal. the ban evasion rule is a "gotcha" to make people , any and all . to go away. I only say that this time it was an IP ban because I had been perma'd before, only to immediately move to a new account I already had made (and on the same device no less).

my guess was algorithms improved /s

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 132 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (41 children)

Another reason to stay out of the usa. Not just anecdotal, we're talking about a country where walking on a public street can be illegal, and people who do are sometimes called a slur.

Because cities aren't for people to live in, they're for cars to drive trough

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 66 points 3 days ago (5 children)

In general, the US seems to be weirdly pro-violence.

Being beaten up is portrayed as perfectly normal in media and advocating for violence (like here) seems to be totally okay for many.

That's fucked up.

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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How can anyone be so lacking in self awareness?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 65 points 3 days ago

It gets easier to understand once you accept that some people just operate on bad faith.

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[–] extratone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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