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Dan the company man felt loyalty to the corp After 16 years of service and a family to support He actually started to believe the weaponry and chemicals were for national defence 'Cause Danny had a mortgage and a boss to answer to The guilty don't feel guilty, they learn not to.
(The Irrationality of Rationality by NOFX).
Fuck the military complex of this species. I'm gonna build my own aerospace company, mine the asteroid belt, and build my own human habitat. With black jack... And hookers... And universal healthcare...
Someone has to learn the government secrets so they can spill it to the revolutionaries later when they become disillusioned so they can build their own weapons.
Or you know, on that tank? Game, where a bunch of specs have been disclosed.
If you can get a job for LM, you can get a job somewhere else. If a bit more money persuades you to help build child pulverizing machines, you never had any ethics to begin with.
The four horsemen of selling out:
Big Pharma
Big Oil
The military-industrial complex
Surveillance tech companies
Was just having a conversation about the phrase "selling out". Seems you don't hear it used much anymore. I reckon that's because the concept is seen as more of a life skill now than some despicable practice. But I feel sure it would be argued I'm just jealous of those sweet living wages.
It could be worse like the insurance industry. It's bad that we need tools of war, but it is not like raping you and your doctor for your health care while making the CEO and investors rich.
"it could be worse" the majority of the world would disagree the healthcare system is bad for America but your military corporation are bad for the planet. Israels little dog will supply them with all they need to bomb the middle east and have killed hundreds of thousands already. I promise you every genocide and massacre nowadays America is often complicit in
Wait, will it make my body look that fit?
After I left Boeing, I made a pledge to never work for or belong to any groups that create weapons. Thankfully the X-32 failed and I got out when I did.
It's not like China is going to stop making weapons if I refuse to make weapons.
"It's not like drug addictd will stop taking drugs if I quit heroin."
"I can't force the world to behave as I would like it, so I may as well not have morals"
You know, every country has an army. Either their own, or another country's...
Ask the dead about honour
My parents said the same thing about air pollution and carbon emissions
I suppose the difference is that a country doesn't just get conquered by force if it stops polluting.
Doesn’t make you any less responsible when the fruits of your labor are used to murder civilians.
What if I have only ever worked constructively on anti-missile defense systems?
A THAAD still could potentially be used for offense even though they don't use any warheads.
A better argument could be early warning systems, or even their space division where they may have NASA or ESA contracts. Products closer to scientific research, like the Osiris, crew capsules, or the lunar rover they are supposedly teamed up with GM to design.
That’s a harder question to answer and depends more on your own moral compass. Do you believe that having better defensive capabilities empowers the users of your creation to feel safe enough to do evil things? I certainly don’t think you could absolve the makers of anti-missile systems who supply militaries that are committing genocide.
My sib has a friend that constantly criticizes others b/c they marginally contribute to injustices in the world (one example is how a family friend votes that specifically puts others at a disadvantage for affordable housing, making them commute for hours on end). That friend also worked with Purdue Pharmaceuticals defense team during their lawsuit lol
It's crazy to me how so many ppl can be so oblivious to their own hypocrisies.
Before I went independent, I made many thousands of parts for General Dynamics up to and including missile housings. It's a shitty feeling.
Selling out being an option for people just means the system is working as intended. People are so poor they are willing to compromise their morals to keep food on the table
Every corp you work at has a dark side. Maybe not Lockheed Martin level of destruction.
My current job, we build systems to get people to spend more for things they don't need.
My last job, we provided technology to "free speech" folks and looked the other way unless legally obligated to take it down
The nonprofit i worked for spent 80% of their time and energy just for funding. Like $2mil a year, and 1.6mil went to paying staff.
Sometimes jobs frame it to look like it's a positive.
I worked at one company that "gave opportunities" to offshore engineers because they were a fraction the cost of Americans.
Another company outsourced our graphic design to people on Fiverr to help fund "freelancers", and then repurpose the work for million dollar ad campaigns.
And for me, I just constantly think of what the line is and how much of it I can cross to feed my kids.
