I mean, you say that. But I think there's money to be made here. If we just create a new name for pasteurisation processes and market it as "that thing" raw milk. Of course with a 200% markup. Free money!

Never tasted a desert, might try that

Homogenization doesn't skim the fat. It breaks the fat globules up into very small particles that form a stable emulsion that doesn't separate. All they do is pass it through a high pressure nozzle.

So what you're telling me is: 'no homo'?

skimmed milk for life

This is what happens when you treat every idea as equally worthy of consideration. We decided it was too mean spirited to call stupid ideas what they are and now the idiots think they know as much as the experts.

"I'm so tired of people's bullshit in very broad ways" IS how I feel about this and many other things.

I kinda feel like we failed here

Well I guess not us, but greedy people. It’s hard to imagine a more well-educated populace being this dumb. And it’s hard to imagine us not being better educated in a world with less greed.

IME you are pegging entirely the wrong group of people.

For at least 10 years the only people I've heard making a stink about being able to get raw milk are the same folks complaining about fluoride in drinking water.

That's not so much the crystals and oils crowd as it is the fuck your feelings crowd.

Rediscovering well-established shit from first principles and a science-illiterate, history-ignorant stance

This is basically the entire process Libertarians go through before realizing they're idiots... They have to re-learn all of the things we've already collectively learned as a society, generations ago. But I guess they just can't believe that we need taxes to fund roads and water infrastructure, until they experience it first hand.

Not even just Libertarians, just conservatives in general these days. Look at Elon Musk and how quick he re-learned why Twitter would "censor" shit.

It's like these people think everything we do is just empty tradition, and until they experience it first hand, they will never believe we need a regulation. When the reality is that many of our regulations are written in blood, and it's idiotic and indefensible to want to go back to those times and do it all again. Simply because the richest dude in the world can't be bothered to read a goddamn book.

If you're betting on that crowd, you're just choosing to overlook the fluoride in the water, gay chem trails, 5G tower and microchips in the COVID vaccine crowd. There is some overlap with the crystal people sure, but much more Alex Jones/QAnon, full on violent basement demon crowd.

I've always been intrigued how scurvy has been "cured" several times but only really got figured out in the 20's after Shackleton's expedition. And then even still, scurvy is back in the news with people being too poor to afford food.

Much of Roman technology was lost because the collapse of state capacity and according administrative capacity rendered the balance of agrarian to non-agrarian workers unsustainable.

A high equilibrium, where the products of population centers supports and enhances the productivity of the agrarian surroundings while administrative pressure (like taxes) encourage the trade between the two: If the farmers need to pay taxes in coin, they need to sell surplus to merchants who ship it to cities to sell it. Conversely, the craftsmen producing iron plows, pottery and so on need coin too, so they sell tools, which the farmers buy to improve their yield. The state also buys services (like construction) and the elite buys luxuries, further creating jobs and fostering more technological development.

(Obviously, the elite skim a lot off the value produced by others - just because they did some good for others with it doesn't mean they didn't primarily do a lot of good for themselves.)

But when internal strife, plague, worsening climate, desperate invaders and identity politics all start breaking that machine, it's hard to keep it from falling apart. And once the rural argarian production can no longer sustain the cities, the skills and crafts of the urbanites get lost.

I can't wait for the future where we're paying subscription fees for a thousand separate essential services and the libertarians start suggestinf thet there should just be a service that provides a single source for paying and managing all of tjose subscriptions.

Couldn't one invent a way more effective if more complicated heat-treatment cycle and a corresponding plant for performing it, and then ideally standardization to ensure this is always done this way before milk is sold for consumption?

Some influencer should get onto that!

As someone that grew up on a farm.

Yeah, "raw" cow milk isn't to be consumed. You'd be shitting your guts out for hours.