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As the title says, I want to finally degoogle (completely) my life. I've found a Pixel 7 8/128 for ~270€ (or pixel 8? ~470€ but no white :c) it's refurbished so google doesn't get a shit from me.

I'm curious to know if:

  • You can change the default icons color (black and gray-ish in the image) or is based on the wallpaper
  • The camera app is good. Not going to make professional pics or videos but I still want to use it to take pics and a good quality is important. Tried their camera on a phone and the bottom menu to switch mode (picture/video/night mode/etc) was buggy
  • Battery life is better/worse than stock Android (if anyone tried that)
  • How the sandboxed play services work
  • Anything else that I should know about. Some people say it's good, some it's bad so I'm curious to know.

I'm still looking for a good maps replacement, Organic Map is not the best because it's missing a lot of places where I live. I wish there was a google wallet Foss alternative... I needed it to use my card with the phone (rare but still possible!)

Help a new user to fully leave shitty phone companies

~~Edit: Does it have some kind of cross profile notifications? Can I see notifications of another profile on the main?~~

GrapheneOS supports forwarding notifications from users running in the background to the currently active user. Forwarding notifications to other users is disabled by default and can be enabled within each user profile where forwarding to the active profile is wanted. Notifications forwarded from other profiles are displayed by default in a standard local notification channel.

It does

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[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know if you can change the icon color, I didn't try. I have a launcher I like so I immediately switched to that and it let's me use any icons I want.

I have not had any camera issues on mine, 6a

I never used the stock os or sandboxed play services so I can't help there.

I use Organic Maps and am fine with it, but mostly I use paper maps. My need for live mapping is very limited. You might want to try GMaps WV https://f-droid.org/packages/us.spotco.maps/

What it is GMaps WV is a WebView wrapper for using Google Maps without exposing your device. more info, including limitations Here

Overall I am happy with GrapheneOS, no issues.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Currently using a launcher too but I was curious, probably I'm going to switch to it bhr not sure which icon pack I should use

The camera problem is on a non pixel phone, on GOS maybe it doesn't have problems

I can try it. Didn't know there was a Gmaps wrapper. Thank you!

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used GOS for about a year and a half, it’s pretty great. Tbh I didn’t feel I was really losing anything from the standard Android experience, but of course gaining more privacy and security.

Sandboxed Play Services works great. The only downside is you still need a Google account to use it, even if you only use the account for that purpose. And Google has really clamped down on not letting you create an account without providing a phone number.

But overall I definitely recommend GOS.

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Batter was better. Like by a lot. It became normal when I installed the google play sandbox.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Looking to degoogle myself too. For the maps, Here we go is a german brand. I know it's not foss but being german, they have to follow GDPR which, I guess, is better than google anyways.

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can change the icons with a different launcher. Try Lawnchair.

I think it's pretty good, although I did install the isolated GCam but I wouldn't with another chance.

I hear battery is better but I can't confirm.

I haven't used the sandboxed services other than the isolated GCam but that worked great.

I've used Graphene for years now and I've loved it!

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No, no, the icons are fine but I want to know if their color is based on wallpaper or it's black and stop. Sadly, I miss the old Nova paging but they sold the app 🤷‍♂️ using NeoLauncher now, I tried lawnchair but didn't use it for some reason (I don't remember why)

What do you mean? I can try GCam but I was curious above GOSCam

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just meant I hear GOSCam is actually better now than it was when I first got Graphene. So, if I had another chance (realistically I could do it now but I'm lazy to change it) then I would just stick with GOSCam to avoid having any Google software.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Ooh I get it. Yes, the app is good but I had this small problem on a non pixel phone, nothing crazy though

[–] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The icons can be set to use material you on the default launcher which should change them to match the colors of your wallpaper. Not sure if the built in graphene apps respect this though

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I was curious. I will try again Lawnchair

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

U can change icons etc by installing different launcher fdroid has a bunch take a look through to find one u like.

There are a few apps that wont work amazon prime is one. My banking apps work but some people have had issues. Overall ive had no issues that i couldnt solve with dr gpt. Would reccommend.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I tried a few launchers and NeoLauncher is the one I'm currently using. Lawnchair has something I didn't like but I don't remember what lol

[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I have tried on several occasions to like GrapheneOS. But every time I install it on my Pixel 7, basic functionality breaks. Things like receiving regular phone calls, as in people calling my number using a normal phone. GrapheneOS will sometimes not even ring and immediately display a notification saying "Missed call". If my phone cannot be used as a .. phone, what good is is?

That's just "regular" Android behaviour

[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Ditto. Deeply frustrating.

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[–] Nednarb44@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (9 children)

-I haven't found a way to change the default app icons, but it doesn't bother me that much with all the other apps I end up having.

-the camera app is plenty good for general use. I don't use it for social media or anything, I use mine for work for taking pics of machinery and I use it to take pics of my kids and stuff and it's plenty good for that. I can't say how much tinkering it let's you do, someone else will have to give more detail

-Battery life is plenty good for me. I have a pixel 6, and I go to bed with it at like 45-60% most days. I'm sure the newer phones are a bit better, but can't say for sure

-I wish I could give more detail on the sandboxed apps, I use a few apps that use google play services and they work well, bit idk how it works behind the scenes

-honestly it just works like your phones OS should, it's really quite good

  • I also try to use organic maps when I can, but it is still missing things, I use google maps in my browser, but that's getting worse and worse
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[–] Templa@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
  • You can change the default app icons easily. The Accrescent store that can be downloaded from the gOS store even have some icon packs that are FOSS.
  • You can download the Pixel Camera from the App Store. I would keep it without Network access and remove the meta data with ExitEraser depending of where I am posting those pictures.
  • Battery seems the same but you won't have access to Adaptive Charging (when your phone is plugged in it tries to keep your phone without reaching 100% to improve battery life).
  • You won't be able to tap cards with your phone unless your bank app provides it. Google Wallet doesn't and won't work.
  • I wasn't able to get Android Auto to work at all.
  • You will need to be used to apps not working properly and testing the compatibility modes, specially if they use the location services.
[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • that's interesting! I'm looking for a pack tbh
  • Uh I dont like it but I want to try it first. What about Image Toolbox? https://f-droid.org/packages/ru.tech.imageresizershrinker/ it can remove Exit data and I like the app!
  • Never heard of it but it's okay, not a big deal
  • Im really disappointed to know my bank uses the cards from a brand but they don't have an app to pay without card
  • I don't need Android auto, not a problem for me
  • What do you mean? Do you have any example for popular-ish apps? I want to know more
[–] Templa@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that’s interesting! I’m looking for a pack tbh

The icon pack I am using currently is from the store I mentioned, it is called Arcticons Material You and they have surprisingly niche icons (like brazilian banking apps). The ones they don't have I just use the icon with the first letter of the app.

Uh I dont like it but I want to try it first. What about Image Toolbox? https://f-droid.org/packages/ru.tech.imageresizershrinker/ it can remove Exit data and I like the app!

You don't have to take metadata away from your pictures if you aren't that concerned but privacy. I haven't used Image Toolbox before, just mentioned the one I use!

Never heard of it but it’s okay, not a big deal

Adaptive Charging is a very nice feature but it is meaning to have long lasting benefits, I don't think it is a deal breaker

Im really disappointed to know my bank uses the cards from a brand but they don’t have an app to pay without card

I was disappointed to learn that many banking institutions used to have this feature, removed it and now feature Google Wallet.

What do you mean? Do you have any example for popular-ish apps? I want to know more

Apps that rely on location might not function properly sometimes. Pokemon Go is one that comes to mind, you can access it but sometimes the location can be buggy.

I have been using GrapheneOS for almost a year now. If you have any other questions, let me know!

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