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Australia has introduced a bill to ban social media access for children under 16, enforcing strict penalties of up to AU$50 million for non-compliance.

The law would require biometric or government ID for age verification and prohibits parental consent as an exemption.

While aiming to protect children from harmful content, critics argue it may drive teens to unregulated platforms.

Some services, like YouTube and WhatsApp, will be exempt for educational or messaging purposes.

The bill has bipartisan support but faces scrutiny from independents and child welfare advocates.

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

this is just giving up privacy in exchange for children still bypassing it anyways lol

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah our governments, globally, are light years behind tech companies. I still need to send notarized letters for things when, as an American, the dod, nsa, fbi, cia, etc all are using palantir software by the quizat haderach Peter Thiel which has more information on me than any other involved party.

This just feels like a slow burn into making lisan al gaib able to observe everything I do.

[–] shrodes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It’s a feature not a bug.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This bill is unlikely to pass.

But not impossible. Australia passes some dumb shit sometimes.

[–] Fashim@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Remember when Turnbull said that the laws of mathematics are subject to the laws of Australia in regards to encryption?

Yeah we do some really dumb shit.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Well there was that time Indiana tried to legislate pi to 3, so at least you're not alone.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia."

Brother thinks he can force companies to break unbreakable encryption because the law says so lmfao

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

What’s worse is that prior to being a PM, he was chairman of the board at OzEmail prior to them being bought out by iiNet. You would have hoped by working for a technology company he’d have some semblance of a clue about encryption. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yay ineffective posturing! I hope they spent millions on Facebook ads.. /s

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

yeah but it's australia. their under 16 is our under 91.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[insert every shitty law that has ever been passed]. It’s a proposal…

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

kautau: every proposal passes!

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know what's nice about logic? It's that claims can be tested. For example the claim "every proposal passes" one needs to find a single proposal that didn't pass.

Here you go 'No pathway,' Australian government abandons proposed social media misinformation laws.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lol first, I never claimed all proposals become law. I claimed all shitty laws were first proposals, you just added my username to your comment.

Second, your article is from 6 days ago, including the article they are sourcing, which appears to certainly be incorrect: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/labor-drops-controversial-misinformation-bill-amid-senate-opposition/edyo8iqh9

I can find no other evidence it was scrapped, all my information is from hours ago saying it’s been approved.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/australia-passes-social-media-ban-children-under-16-2024-11-28/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c89vjj0lxx9o

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/nov/29/how-australias-tough-social-media-ban-compares-to-laws-in-other-countries

You’re totally correct that logic is fun.

All bad laws were once proposals is true.

I said “all proposals become law” is false.

This bad proposal is now law is true.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

The law would require biometric or government ID for age verification and prohibits parental consent as an exemption.

Fuck that noise. It’s almost as egregious as those US states that demand porn websites require Gov’t issued ID.

I don’t want copies of those documents processed by these corps; you just know they will use it to train their LLMs on it, store it inappropriately, and ultimately end up leaking them due to a misconfigured S3 bucket somewhere.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] ulterno@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago

So now you can't use your voice to convey speech out of class, if you are under 16?
Because Air is a medium which can be used to socialise.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How will we ever control the minds of children if we can't control their computers? How will we even force our narratives on them without removing all counter-narratives? How can they ever be happy without taking away their freedom and information? Go Australia! Keep that delusional settler vibe strong! \s