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Yep, what's interesting is while Hindus accept is a religious thing (Not a fan of religions), anti dog eaters take a more we're objectively morally superior approach which really grinds my gears.
Considering we are eating a god right in front of them, they are remarkable civil about it all. I'm not a fan of religion either, as I've seen it bring out the worst in people. I wish there was more patience, understanding and empathy in the world.
I’m not Hindu but my Hindu friends have said that a misunderstanding of the religion. You don’t eat the cow because it’s produce milk. As such it’s more useful alive. You get fertilizer
It’s not a god. It’s more like the communion wafer.
I could be wrong but that’s what I’ve been told my multiple Hindus
In Catholicism a communion wafer is quite literally the body of Christ -- not symbolic. And Christ, as part of the holy trinity, is literally God. So Catholics do actually believe they're chomping down God every Sunday morning.
This is what confuses the shit out of me -
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You're eating the body of another human (symbolically, but still), wtf
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Christian God will toss you into hell fire for eternity if you call someone else a God, yet people call Jesus a God even though he's a distinct entity from his father, wtf
Cows by contrast are easier to explain imo - they've been and still are extremely important economically for a majority of the population. Treating them with care keeps a lot of people well off.
Not claiming this makes sense, but(in traditional Christian belif) Jesus is not a distinct entity from God.
God is one being made up of: the father(the being you are refering to as Christian god in your comment),
the son(jesus, who is gods humansona but the father does not stop existing when Jesus mode is active, and Jesus has always exsisted i.e.he wasn't created when he was born, and will always exist)
and the holy spirit (god's spiritual power or force e.g in an exorcism it's the holy spirit that actually casts the deamon out ). these are all 'aspects' of a single being, to reference St.Patrick its like how a shamrock has 3 leaves but they make up one plant
these are all 'aspects' of a single being, to reference St.Patrick its like how a shamrock has 3 leaves but they make up one plant
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“Partialism?”
“Yes partialism, a heresy which asserts that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not distinct persons of the Godhead but are different parts of God, each composing one third of the divine.”
“And who confesses the heresy of partialism?”
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Damnit!! I knew I'd forgotten something, told myself it was a good enough explanation.
It was a fine explanation, lol, it’s just that the theology here doesn’t really make much sense outside the world of Christian theology. Any attempt to simplify it for explanation runs into one “heresy” or another.
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I too like cows. They make sense to me.
The eating-a-human thing is symbolic. I take it as a reminder to have respect for the sacrifice made by the animals that died to make the food we eat. They support our life and so a level of respect is called for.
People think of Jesus as an avatar, like god playing a computer game on earth. So in that sense Jesus is video game god.
I hate the whole hellfire thing. It seems very manipulative.
It’s symbolic but it’s supposed to the body and blood of Christ. It’s sacred.
I was raised Catholic. I still go to mass. I’m for the most part an atheist.
Of all the things, communion never bothered me as I find it as you said a reminder
People think of Jesus as an avatar, like god playing a computer game on earth. So in that sense Jesus is video game god.
That sounds conceptually similar to Hinduism, where most of the Gods are avatars of a few Gods, appearing in different places/eras
I don’t understand how it can be not symbolic when it is still demonstrably a cracker.
But I know religion is full of brute assertions that have no “reason” behind them so this is probably just another one.
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I really have no problem with people eating any animal. You just have to separate the animals you have for pets and the animals you eat. Don't mix them.
If people have a dog for eating, I have no issue with that. But if someone takes a dog that they've loved and played with for years and then eats it? That's going to mess their family up.
Naaa that's ridculous. You've never lived on a farm I presume. Or raised any sort of traditional libestock. We eat chickens and cows and goats we raise, the heirarchy of worth of conciousness is the issue here.
That's not what they're saying. Raising an animal for slaughter is not the same as raising an animal as a pet. People bond with their pets the way they bond with family members. Chickens and cows and goats might be loved right up until the day they are killed for food, but it's expected that they will die and be eaten.
I grew up on a farm.
We had goats we named and we're sort of pets. And we had goats that we butchered and ate. No problem.
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And the next step along this thought process is: "All taboos and cultural norms around food are a social construct and there is no right or wrong."
Something being a social construct doesn't make it inherently incorrect, subjective, or pointless. What it does mean is it is not a law of the universe, it is open to critique, reform, and dismantling. If a culture has a food taboo rooted in ethical beliefs or medical beliefs for example I feel like the words right and wrong are applicable.
However, consider that false accusations of the form "That tribe over there eat human flesh" are much more common than tribes that actually eat human flesh.
There are some very common rules. Don't eat your neighbor; don't have sex with your mom; don't shit in the well; the tannery goes downwind of town ...
I think it boils down to "and ye harm none, do what ye will."
Well that's my saturday night busted..
Crazy how pigs are as intelligent as a three year old and nobody cares when they're killed for food but all the carnists get mad when i go looking for my next meal at the local daycare. All of a sudden low intelligence isn't a good excuse to kill sentient beings
(/s if it isn't obvious, i'm strongly against killing anyone from any species, especially when it's for pleasure. And let's be real, if you're reading this odds are you don't need to eat dead animals to survive, so the real reason boils down to the pleasure you get from their dead body)
all the carnists get mad when i go looking for my next meal at the local daycare.
Well sure. That's not free range.
I heard a great story from an Indian student years ago, that as he left to come to school in American, his mom looked him dead in the eye and said “don’t eat beef.” In school in Texas he was offered Chicken Fried Steak… chicken, right? So he tried it and loved it. After a few times he found out the truth, but it’s so delicious he still eats it (don’t tell his mom).
He's in the meat closet.
Why the f is it called that?
It’s prepared like fried chicken
Wait till the learn about Chicken Fried Chicken!
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Why would these things be equal?
In India, cows are revered as living deities. I know I don't worship my dog. While both mindsets lead to a revulsion at the idea of eating said meat, I don't think we're talking about the same emotions at all.
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Could you edit the title to include the entire showerthought? See rule 2.
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