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In Catholicism a communion wafer is quite literally the body of Christ -- not symbolic. And Christ, as part of the holy trinity, is literally God. So Catholics do actually believe they're chomping down God every Sunday morning.
This is what confuses the shit out of me -
You're eating the body of another human (symbolically, but still), wtf
Christian God will toss you into hell fire for eternity if you call someone else a God, yet people call Jesus a God even though he's a distinct entity from his father, wtf
Cows by contrast are easier to explain imo - they've been and still are extremely important economically for a majority of the population. Treating them with care keeps a lot of people well off.
Not claiming this makes sense, but(in traditional Christian belif) Jesus is not a distinct entity from God.
God is one being made up of: the father(the being you are refering to as Christian god in your comment),
the son(jesus, who is gods humansona but the father does not stop existing when Jesus mode is active, and Jesus has always exsisted i.e.he wasn't created when he was born, and will always exist)
and the holy spirit (god's spiritual power or force e.g in an exorcism it's the holy spirit that actually casts the deamon out ). these are all 'aspects' of a single being, to reference St.Patrick its like how a shamrock has 3 leaves but they make up one plant
“I’m gonna stop ya right there, Patrick. Yeah, hold yer horses, Patrick. You’re about to confess ‘partialism.’”
“Partialism?”
“Yes partialism, a heresy which asserts that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not distinct persons of the Godhead but are different parts of God, each composing one third of the divine.”
“And who confesses the heresy of partialism?”
“The first season of the cartoon program Voltron where five robot lion cars merge together to form one giant robot samurai, obviously.”
From this funny video about the theology of the Trinity.
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Damnit!! I knew I'd forgotten something, told myself it was a good enough explanation.
It was a fine explanation, lol, it’s just that the theology here doesn’t really make much sense outside the world of Christian theology. Any attempt to simplify it for explanation runs into one “heresy” or another.
The thing is theologists made that up in the Middle Ages to explain how having the three “god” entities made sense in the context of the rest of the religion. Jesus and Jehovah seemed to conflict with the “one god” thing, and who really knows about the “holy spirit”, so they invented the Doctrine of the Trinity to try to make it make sense.
I too like cows. They make sense to me.
The eating-a-human thing is symbolic. I take it as a reminder to have respect for the sacrifice made by the animals that died to make the food we eat. They support our life and so a level of respect is called for.
People think of Jesus as an avatar, like god playing a computer game on earth. So in that sense Jesus is video game god.
I hate the whole hellfire thing. It seems very manipulative.
That sounds conceptually similar to Hinduism, where most of the Gods are avatars of a few Gods, appearing in different places/eras
It’s symbolic but it’s supposed to the body and blood of Christ. It’s sacred.
I was raised Catholic. I still go to mass. I’m for the most part an atheist.
Of all the things, communion never bothered me as I find it as you said a reminder
I don’t understand how it can be not symbolic when it is still demonstrably a cracker.
But I know religion is full of brute assertions that have no “reason” behind them so this is probably just another one.