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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 114 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Oh lord. This did not need to be a two parter. Man, I miss movies being well contained 90 minute stories.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 89 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The whole Broadway show can be done in a 2 hour-ish performance live, there is no justification to stretch this to two movies other than corporate greed milking every IP to the limit

[–] bollybing@lemmynsfw.com 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I don't know, I thought the Broadway show was missing an interspecies love triangle.

And maybe a long scene with barrels.

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Why does it hurt so much?!

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

Because it was Reeeeeel!

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From everything I've seen so far about Wicked the movie(s), yes that's exactly what it is.

The show is still touring folks, go see the show if you can

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

There are still plenty of those. My word the histrionics from some corners around this film are absurd.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Unless its a planned trilogy with 3 strong stories that could semi-standalone (short of context being lost without the other installments) then any movie that needs more than 2 hours should just be a mini series. You wanna tell a 4 hour long story about the Wizard of Oz? Fine, stick it on Netflix and anyone who wants to binge watch it can to make it “feel like a movie” and those who don’t will have 4 - hour long episodes.

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They wouldn't make 4 episodes, they'd make 8 and half of them would be filler episodes.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 8 points 5 days ago

I'm starting to suspect that this is why I don't watch as many films as I'd like to. They've all become such a time commitment. Show me what you can do with an hour and a half!

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just make it long with an intermission.

Lots of old musical films did that. Like Oklahoma!, Fiddler on the Roof, and Hello Dolly.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

They don't want to pay for the special effects for the sequel if the first movie bombs

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[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 65 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Just you wait...

  • 2024: Wicked (Part 1)
  • 2025: Wicked Part 2 (Part 1)
  • 2026: Wicked Part 2 (Part 2)
[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Someone's been to the Attack on Titan School of Numbering.

Zeno’s triology: Part 1 Part 2 (Part 1) Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 1)) Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 1))) …

As long as you lose less than half the audience in every fraction, you’ve got to make infinite money.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Is Wicked directed by Gabe Newell?

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Starting to look like a prog album:

2028: Wicked, are you there? I’m destroying Dorothy volume iii Through the eyes of Oz

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 18 points 4 days ago

I have to say it's pretty funny that the article's second half is behind a paywall.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 46 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I really don't care anymore .... when a new movie is announced, I really don't care to do anything special to go out and see it. I just forget about it and wait a year or two and watch it as a stream on one of the services I already pay for.

It usually works out. If the movie was crap, everyone will tell me, I'll read about it or see low review scores for and just never bother watching it ever ..... or it's released on Netflix, Disney or Amazon and I watch it there a year or two later.

If it has great reviews and not available anywhere, then I just wait a year and rent it for $5 and watch it at home.

There's more than enough content to last a lifetime, I'm not spending any more money to watch the latest greatest movie as soon as it comes out.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago

Yep. Being a patient consumer is the way.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I’m still bitter about Spider-Man. Had no idea it was a part one until it ended. Maybe we just create whole movies with the 2+ hours we are using.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah fuck you reminded me of the ending of Spiderverse. Probably at least 2 years away still...

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think they were even making part 2 when they ended it that way. Made it so much worse.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

And the fact they said we'd have this to you by EOY. Absolute BS. Still no updated release date.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I was so psyched for that movie, but when I found out it was a part one, I lost interest and still haven't seen it

[–] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It completely killed any narrative cohesion or pay-off by just ending. I remember thinking "it's been a really long time... how are they going to wrap this up?"

Turns out the answer is "don't wrap it up". It truly makes me not recommend it - though I had other issues with it aside from just that absurd decision. Rewatch the first again, instead.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Which Spiderman was a part 1 of 2?

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The second spider-verse movie, I think. No mention of it being a trilogy but the story clearly ended setting up a third movie.

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[–] Bonesy91@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Good. Hope this thing flops.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hope this thing flops.

Why?

I like Wicked. I would’ve preferred a single-movie version, but there is a lot of plot kind of rushed or skipped over in the musical. If they go back to the source material of the book they can flesh some of that out nicely and give more context to the story.

It might be good! It might be terrible. I don’t know yet.

But why hope for it to flop?

[–] And009@reddthat.com 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Itz cool to be cynical against any hint of capitalism

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 points 3 days ago

Look at me, I hate thing, give me attention

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I saw the trailer yesterday at the theaters. Looks like hot garbage

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

I dunno i went to wicked.com and it looked pretty nice :]

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

This did have PART 1 early in reveal but then realized people wouldn't see it so they lied about this being a complete movie. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning did the same thing

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

People aren't going to see a movie that lies about it being a part 1 either, at least not after the first weekend when the word gets out

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I pretty sure it was public knowledge (even talked about in publicity) Dead Reckoning was two parts.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, they scrubbed it from the title once it was on digital/streaming for awhile.

Here’s what AppleTV looks like:

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Wow I didn't know they cut it in half. After the whole poster thing I wasn't super enthused to see the film, after all I thought the play did amazing job, now I'm even less enthused.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s annoying when they do it for sure. And personally, I love a long movie. I’d rather watch a three hour epic than two 90 minute movies.

But I don’t have the attention span of a goldfish like many people seem to have these days. So it’s understandable that they feel the need to split, especially if there’s going to be kids watching it.

[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I like a good epic as much as the next person, but this is pushing 3 hours itself. Assuming Part 2 is similar, I definitely don't have the attention span to hold me through a 5 1/2 hour, 2-part musical. Yikes.

I'm trying to think of any musical that would be tolerable at 2x the original runtime.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I hadn’t seen the runtime before; you’re right! 161 minutes! That’s definitely three hours with trailers and intermission. Yowza.

It does seem strange to have a part 2 with that much runtime.

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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Damn, I planned on watching this too. No point now.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was surprised when Dune did it, not sure why they hid it.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dune I can give a pass to because Frank Herbert originally wrote it as a trilogy and combined it into one book. It has pretty clear chunks breaking it up. They absolutely should have been better about advertising what it was, but it's hard to cover all that content succinctly

Wicked however is based off a 2 hour and 45 minute Broadway show with a 15 minute intermission. There is no good reason that a movie that can have tighter transistons, faster costume changes, and no reused cast should be longer than the Broadway show. Let alone twice as long and spread over multiple films

[–] keckbug@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Strictly speaking, the show is somewhat based on a series of novels. There’s an awful lot of story in those that is simply not present t in the musical, but could possibly have been included in the movie. I don’t know if that’s actually what happened, but there’s certainly a canon source for substantially more content.

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