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Google is testing the ‘impact’ of removing EU news from search results (www.theverge.com)

submitted 1 day ago by Joker@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Somebody help get my ideas straight on this one, please.

To my knowledge, Bing and Google search engine are the default options available out there, to the point other search services relay service from those, give or take a few tweaks (DuckDuckGo, Startpage, etc).

Now lets remove those from the picture and what is left?

I read a post yesterday announcing Ecosia amd Qwant were joining efforts to build a fully european search engine (hopefully, yes, but I'm not holding my breath on it). Maybe that is an option. But what else?

[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

A surprising amount

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 5 points 4 hours ago

Users are testing the impact of not using Google.

Spoiler: non-LLM enshittified search engines return reliable results and usually are not censored.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 60 points 21 hours ago

If they could at the same time make one without usa news that would be great

[–] jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip 117 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

My brother in Lemmy, this is what stopping Big Tech looks like.

Europe made laws that say that Google and others need to pay if they want to link to EU publishers. Well, maybe the price they are asking is not worth it.

You're right about the firewall energy, but that's simply how these laws work. The point of copyright, as well as age verification and other such laws, is to control who may access certain information.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Europe asked Google to do this so they can monitor what kind of influence Google has.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

This is one of the rare occasions I'm siding with Google. The news outlets are claiming that they should be paid money for those result snippets. It's not because I'm caring for Google so much but because that stance hurts small search engines.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

EU: You have to pay to show our news.

Google: Ok. We won't show your news.

EU: Pikachu face

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

That's what basically happened in Germany like 10, 15 years ago when the first publisher had that idea. Its news stories would still show up in search results but only the headline, not that text snippet and no thumbnail image. These results were less attractive to users, so traffic from Google to those web sites crashed down by like 80, 90 percent.

In the end the publishers gave Google a free license to reproduce text snippets and thumbnails. The tightened copyright law provision wasn't repealed. Small search engines without leverage still (AFAIK to this day) have to pay.

So Google pays nothing, publishers earn nothing, upstart search engines can't afford the fees, and so Google leaves even more in power because of a law not even they wanted.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

Not wanting to appear on Google is how we're going to get EVEN more dailymail type shit.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, they've done this when places charge them money to index the news articles there.

It hardly seems reasonable to both mandate that they index a given piece of news media and that they pay a fee to do so.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 hours ago

A US news echo chamber at the whims of whatever they think will appease trump is going to be horrifying...

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

☞ https://www.theguardian.com/europe

[–] silva@sopuli.xyz 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I just clicked on that link and the first headline is about Barbados, a country very clearly not in Europe. Lol

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

On 30 November 2021, Barbados transitioned to a republic within the Commonwealth, replacing its monarchy with a ceremonial president.

if you take a quick look at other news from Barbados, you would understand why ☞ https://www.theguardian.com/world/barbados

it was "spectacular" with Rihanna attending the ceremony ☞ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWbC1H7RJHI

not that i'm a fan. I just remember reading about it, and it's only been 3 years