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Theres someone I sometimes encounter in a discord Im in that makes a hobby of doing stuff with them (from what I gather seeing it, they do more with it that just asking them for a prompt and leaving them at that, at least partly because it doesnt generally give them something theyre happy with initially and they end up having to ask the thing to edit specific bits of it in different ways over and over until it does). I dont really understand what exactly it is this entails, as what they seem to most like making it do is code "shaders" for them that create unrecognizable abstract patterns, but they spend a lot of time talking at length about technical parameters of various models and what they like and dont like about them, so I assume the guy must find something enjoyable in it all. That being said, using it as a sort of strange toy isnt really the most useful use case.

Boilerplate code (the stuff you usually have to copy anyway from GitHub) and summarising long boring articles. That's the use case for me. Other than that I agree - and having done AI service agent coding myself for fun I can seriously say that I would not trust it to run a business service without a human in the loop

Do I think it's generally useful? No, not at all.

But for very specific purposes it's worth considering as an option.

Text-to-image generation has been worth it to get a jumping-off point for a sketch, or to get a rough portrait for a D&D character.

Regular old ChatGPT has been good on a couple occasions for humor (again D&D related; I asked it for a "help wanted" ad in the style of newspaper personals and the result was hilariously campy)

In terms of actual problem solving... There have been a couple instances where, when Google or Stack Overflow haven't helped, I've asked it for troubleshooting ideas as a last resort. It did manage to pinpoint the issue once, but usually it just ends up that one of the topics or strategies it floats prove to be useful after further investigation. I would never trust anything factual without verifying, or copy/paste code from it directly though.

I think it’s a fun toy that is being misused and forced into a lot of things it isn’t ready for.

I’m doing a lot with AI but it’s pretty much slop. I use self hosted stable diffusion, Ollama, and whisper for a discord bot, code help, writing assistance, and I pay elevenlabs for TTS so I can talk to it. It’s been pretty useful. It’s all running on an old computer with a 3060. Voice chat is a little slow and has its own problems but it’s all been fun to learn.

I've enjoyed some of the absurd things out can come up with. Surreal videos and memes (every president as a bodybuilder wrestler). However it's never been useful and the cost isn't worth the benefit, to me.

If used in the specific niche use cases its trained for, as long as its used as a tool and not a final product. For example, using AI to generate background elements of a complete image. The AI elements aren't the focus, and should be things that shouldn't matter, but it might be better to use an AI element rather than doing a bare minimum element by hand. This might be something like a blurred out environment background behind a peice of hand drawn character art - otherwise it might just be a gradient or solid colour because it isn't important, but having something low-quality is better than having effectively nothing.

In a similar case, for multidisciplinary projects where the artists can't realistically work proficiently in every field required, AI assets may be good enough to meet the minimum requirements to at least complete the project. For example, I do a lot of game modding - I'm proficient with programming, game/level design, and 3D modeling, but not good enough to make dozens of textures and sounds that are up to snuff. I might be able to dedicate time to make a couple of most key resources myself or hire someone, but seeing as this is a non-commercial, non-monitized project I can't buy resources regularly. AI can be a good enough solution to get the project out the door.

In the same way, LLM tools can be good if used as a way to "extend" existing works. Its a generally bad idea to rely entirely on them, but if you use it to polish a sentence you wrote, come up with phrasing ideas, or write your long if-chain for you, then it's a way of improving or speeding up your work.

Basically, AI tools as they are, should be seen as another tool by those in or adjacent to the related profession - another tool in the toolbox rather than a way to replace the human.

I have horrible spelling and sometimes write in an archaic register. I also often write in a way that sounds rather aggressive which is not my intention most of the time. Ai helps me rewrite that shit and makes me more sensitive to tone in written text.

Of course just like normal spell check and auto completion feature one still needs to read it a final time.

It’s really helped me get recipes without website ads overtaxing my old surface.

To me it's glorified autocomplete. I see LLM as a potencial way of drastically lowering barrier of entry to coding. But I'm at a skill level that coercing a chatbot into writing code is a hiderance. What I need is good documentation and good IDE statical analysis.

I'm still waiting on a good, IDE integrated, local model that would be capable of more that autompleting a line of code. I want it to generate the boiler plate parts of code and get out of my way of solving problems.

What I don't want, is a fucking chatbot.

You might not know this but there are many out there who hunger for the slop.

it’s useful for programming from time to time. But not for asking open questions. I’ve found having to double check is too unnerving and letting it just provide the links instantly is more my way of working. Other than that it sometimes sketches things out when I have no idea what to do, so all in all it’s a glorified search engine for me.

Other than work I despise writing emails and reports and it fluffs them up. I usually have to edit them afterwards to not make em look ai-made but it adds some „substance“.

To me AI is useless. Its not intelligent, its just a blender that blends up tons of results into one hot steaming mug of "knowledge". If you toss a nugget of shit into a smoothie while it's being blended, it's gonna taste like shit. Considering the amount of misinformation on the internet, everything AI spits out is shit.

It is purely derivative, devoid of any true originality with vague facade of intelligence in an attempt to bypass existing copyright law.

I like being able to generate porn.

Not that I can’t just, you know, FIND porn, but there’s something really fun about trying to generate an image just right, tweaking settings and models until you get the result you’re after.

/shrug

to copy my own comment from another similar thread:

I’m an idiot with no marketable skills. I put boxes on shelves for a living. I want to be an artist, a musician, a programmer, an author. I am so bad at all of these, and between having a full time job, a significant other, and several neglected hobbies, I don’t have time to learn to get better at something I suck at. So I cheat. If I want art done, I could commission a real artist, or for the cost of one image I could pay for dalle and have as many images as I want (sure, none of them will be quite what I want but they’ll all be at least good). I could hire a programmer, or I could have chatgpt whip up a script for me since I’m already paying for it anyway since I want access to dalle for my art stuff. Since I have chatgpt anyway, I might as well use it to help flesh out my lore for the book I’ll never write. I haven’t found a good solution for music.

I have in my brain a vision for a thing that is so fucking cool (to me), and nobody else can see it. I need to get it out of my brain, and the only way to do that is to actualize it into reality. I don’t have the skills necessary to do it myself, and I don’t have the money to convince anyone else to help me do it. generative AI is the only way I’m going to be able to make this work. Sure, I wish that the creators of the content that were stolen from to train the ai’s were fairly compensated. I’d be ok with my chatgpt subscription cost going up a few dollars if that meant real living artists got paid, I’m poor but I’m not broke.

These are the opinions of an idiot with no marketable skills.

I use LLMs for multiple things, and it's useful for things that are easy to validate. E.g. when you're trying to find or learn about something, but don't know the right terminology or keywords to put into a search engine. I also use it for some coding tasks. It works OK for getting customized usage examples for libraries, languages, and frameworks you may not be familiar with (but will sometimes use old APIs or just hallucinate APIs that don't exist). It works OK for things like "translation" tasks; such as converting a MySQL query to a PostGres query. I tried out GitHub CoPilot for a while, but found that it would sometimes introduce subtle bugs that I would initially overlook, so I don't use it anymore. I've had to create some graphics, and am not at all an artist, but was able to use transmission1111, ControlNet, Stable Diffusion, and Gimp to get usable results (an artist would obviously be much better though). RemBG and works pretty well for isolating the subject of an image and removing the background too. Image upsampling, DLSS, DTS Neural X, plant identification apps, the blind-spot warnings in my car, image stabilization, and stuff like that are pretty useful too.

So I'm really bad about remembering to add comments to my code, but since I started using githubs ai code assistant thing in vs code, it will make contextual suggestions when you comment out a line. I've even gone back to stuff I made ages ago, and used it to figure out what the hell I was thinking when I wrote it back then 😆

It's actually really helpful.

I feel like once the tech adoption curve settles down, it will be most useful in cases like that: contextual analysis

I use ChatGPT and Copilot as search engines, particularly for programming concepts or technical documentation. The way I figure, since these AI companies are scraping the internet to train these models, it’s incredibly likely that they’ve picked up some bit of information that Google and DDG won’t surface because SEO.

I usually keep abreast of the scene so I'll give a lot of stuff a try. Entertainment wise, making music and images or playing dnd with it is fun but the novelty tends to wear off. Image gen can be useful for personal projects.

Work wise, I mostly use it to do deep dives into things like datasheets and libraries, or doing the boring coding bits. I verify the info and use it in conjunction with regular research but it makes things a lot easier.

Oh, also tts is fun. The actor who played Dumbledore reads me the news and Emma Watson tells me what exercise is next during my workout, although some might frown on using their voices without consent.

I use ChatGpt to ask programming questions, it’s not always correct but neither is Stack Overflow nowadays. At least it will point me in the right direction.

It's great for parsing through the enshittified journalism. You know the classic recipe blog trope? If you ask chatgpt for a recipe, it just gives you one. Whether it's good or not is a different story, but chatgpt is leagues better at getting to the info you want than search has been for the last decade.

I went for a routine dental cleaning today and my dentist integrated a specialized AI tool to help identify cavities and estimate the progress of decay. Comparing my x-rays between the raw image and the overlay from the AI, we saw a total of 5 cavities. Without the AI, my dentist would have wanted to fill all of them. With the AI, it was narrowed down to 2 that need attention, and the others are early enough that they can be maintained.

I'm all for these types of specialized AIs, and hope to see even further advances in the future.

I work on a 20+ year knowledge base for a big company that has had no real content management governance for pretty much that whole time.

We knew there was duplicate content in that database, but were talking about thousands of articles, with several more added daily.

With such a small team, identifying duplicate/redundant content was just an ad-hoc thing that could never be tackled as a whole without a huge amount of resources.

AI was able to comb through everything and find hundreds of articles with duplicate/redundant content within a few hours. Now we have a list of articles we can work through and clean up.

Its great for documentation like APIs and it really makes a difference

That's a bit loaded question. By AI I assume you're refering to GenAI/LLMs rather than AI broadly.

• I use it to correct my spelling on longer posts and I find that it improves the clarity and helps my point come across better.
• I use Dall-E to create pictures I never could have before, because despite my interest in drawing, I just never bothered to learn it myself. GenAI enables me to skip the learning and go straight to creating.
• I like that it can simulate famous people and allows me to ask 'them' questions that I never could in real life. For example, yesterday I spent a good while chatting with 'Sam Harris' about the morality of lying and the edge cases where it might be justified. I find discussions like this genuinely enjoyable and insightful.
• I also like using the voice mode where I can just talk with it. As a non-native english speaker, I find it to be good practise to help me improve my ~~spelling~~ pronunciation.

I hate that it monetized general knowledge that use to be easily searchable then repackaged it as some sort of black box randomizer.

It's great at summarization and translations.

I've been finding it useful for altering recipes to take my wife's allergies into account. I don't use it for much else. And certainly not for anything important.

The only things I use and I know they have AI are Spotify recommendations, live captions on videos and DLSS. I don't find generative AI to be interesting, but there's nothing wrong with machine learning itself imo if it's used for things that have purpose.

Its really good for all kinds scams.

So...

Low Tier / Wannabe Corpos?

Regardless of how useful some might find it, there isn’t a single use case that justifies the environmental cost (not to mention the societal cost). None. Stop using it. You were able to survive and function without it 2 years ago, and you still can.

I like some of the art. Especially things that would be difficult or almost impossible for a human to do.

One of the more interesting ones is horror. AI is super good at making uncanny or gross stuff that most people wouldn't even think to make.