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    [–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 243 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    Oh fuck. I'll use this from now on. Except for if I won't use it next week. Then I'll forget about it because my memory is a damn sieve.

    [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 123 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Just take the next step and make a text file you dump all these commands into and then forget about in a week. When you randomly stumble across it years from now you’ll be able to say “wow, I could have used this 10 months ago if I remembered it existed!”

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 55 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    I make a separate text file per command so I can search them!

    Which I dont.

    [–] variants@possumpat.io 33 points 4 weeks ago

    I usually print these out and put them in a safe deposit box at a bank so I never lose them

    [–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 weeks ago

    We can store those text files in a terminal and search for them from the command line with man command!

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    [–] Technofrood@feddit.uk 12 points 4 weeks ago

    Use a systemd timer to send yourself a reminder. Discoverd them recently myself and honestly liking them more than cron.

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    [–] _____@lemm.ee 118 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    me: systemd is not that bloated

    systemd:

    [–] exu@feditown.com 54 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    You need a calendar and time handling anyways for logging purposes and to set timers correctly. It's likely not that much extra work exposing that functionality.

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 17 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    No, UNIX philosophy demands that every single one of those things is one or more separate things and that half of them are poorly or not at all maintained. Just like God intended.

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    [–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Try scheduling a cron tab job to run a task on dates defined that way.

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    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 13 points 4 weeks ago

    I think this is for setting date oriented timers

    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 98 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    Usually such things have a simple explanation. systemd does a lot with time and date, for example scheduling tasks. It's quite obvious that it has this capabilities, when you think about it.

    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    Usually such things have a simple explanation. systemd does a lot ~~with time and date, for example scheduling tasks. It's quite obvious that it has this capabilities, when you think about it.~~

    FTFY

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    [–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 88 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    systemd is a great operating system, it just lacks a decent text editor.

    [–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    Good thing it's editor agnostic so everybody can do the right thing in the end and choose nano

    [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
    [–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    ed is the standard text editor.

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    [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 12 points 4 weeks ago

    alias systemd-texted=micro

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    [–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 59 points 4 weeks ago

    Thanks! I hate this. 🖤

    [–] PanArab@lemm.ee 49 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

    systemd is the future, and the future has been here for over a decade and yet old Unix and BSD purists still cry about it

    I have one simple thing to say to the downvoters: I am not using a minicomputer from 1970, why should I be bound by the limits set then?

    [–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 41 points 4 weeks ago

    Yeah, I'm also one of these people silently enjoying systemd and wayland. Every now and then there's fuzz on one of these. I shrug, and move on still enjoying both of them.

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    [–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 46 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    In the UK, if Christmas or New Year falls on a weekend, a seperate equivalent holiday is made during the week to compensate.

    [–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Wait, do other countries not do this? So if a public holiday falls on a Saturday it doesn't get pushed to Monday?

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Germany doesn't do this, but the minimum, when all holidays fall on the worst possible days, is more than the number of holidays in the UK.

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    [–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    Don't do that in Norway either - just bad luck if the holidays happen to land on a weekend. On the other hand, we have five weeks of paid vacation, and holidays are not counted into those, I'm not sure how that's done in other countries?

    [–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    but the UK has the fewest public holidays in Europe. In Germany we have 9-13 but don't get a day off if a public holiday is on a weekend. And we have a minimum of 20/24 days of holiday on top

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    [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 weeks ago

    That's pretty clever.

    [–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 36 points 4 weeks ago

    Finally we can put all the controversy around systemd to rest.

    [–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago

    Well. I mean, that's pretty cool. I don't think I would have ever guess that was an actual function from systemd but here we are

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    This plays some kind of role in the debate of systemd being good or not. I'm not sure if goes in the good column or the bad column, but I know it goes into a column.

    [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    I am typically in the group saying "systemd is overlarge with too many responsibilities" but this capability makes perfect sense for its job running services. Probably the good column.

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    [–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    Well, systemd developers made one of the classic blunders a software developer can do: make a program that has to deal with time and dates. Every time I have to deal with timestamps I'm like "oh shit, here we go again".

    Anyway, as I understood it the reason this is in systemd is because they wanted to replace cron, and it's fine by me because cron has it's own brain-hurt. (The cron syntax is something that always makes me squint real hard for a while.)

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    [–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 weeks ago

    This is basically just a way nicer, more flexible cron syntax being dressed up as something ridiculous. There are legitimate reasons for wanting something like this, like running some sort of resource heavy disk optimization the first Friday evening of every month or something.

    [–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    It is literally happening this year.

    24th is Tuesday. 1st of January is Wednesday and as a bonus Jan 6 is also a holiday in my country and that's Monday.

    So from dec 22 to jan 6 i can be home by using just 6 days off

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    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

    God, I only have one question...

    Why?

    [–] alteredEnvoy@sopuli.xyz 51 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

    Did you know the next Friday the 13th is in December? ChatGPT didn't know it. (I had to give it an extra date.now for it to figure it out)

    [–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 4 weeks ago

    Damn and does it work as an init too? xD.

    [–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
    $ systemd-analyze calendar tomorrow
    Failed to parse calendar specification 'tomorrow': Invalid argument
    Hint: this expression is a valid timestamp. Use 'systemd-analyze timestamp "tomorrow"' instead?
    $ systemd-analyze timestamp tuesday
    Failed to parse "tuesday": Invalid argument
    Hint: this expression is a valid calendar specification. Use 'systemd-analyze calendar "tuesday"' instead?
    

    ಠ_ಠ

    $ for day in Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat Sun; do TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar "$day 02-29"|tail -2; done
        Next elapse: Mon 2044-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 19 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Tue 2028-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 3 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Wed 2040-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 15 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Thu 2052-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 27 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Fri 2036-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 11 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Sat 2048-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 23 years 4 months left
        Next elapse: Sun 2032-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 7 years 4 months left
    

    still image from "Zach Galifianakis Math" gif, with Zach looking contemplative with math notation floating in front of his face

    (It checks out.)

    Surprisingly its calendar specification parser actually allows for 31 days in every month:

    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-29' && echo OK || echo not OK
      Original form: 02-29
    Normalized form: *-02-29 00:00:00
        Next elapse: Tue 2028-02-29 00:00:00 UTC
           From now: 3 years 4 months left
    OK
    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-30' && echo OK || echo not OK
      Original form: 02-30
    Normalized form: *-02-30 00:00:00
        Next elapse: never           
    OK
    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-31' && echo OK || echo not OK
      Original form: 02-31
    Normalized form: *-02-31 00:00:00
        Next elapse: never           
    OK
    $ TZ=UTC systemd-analyze calendar '02-32' && echo OK || echo not OK
    Failed to parse calendar specification '02-32': Invalid argument
    not OK
    
    [–] humblebun@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 weeks ago

    No Christmas for 5 years?? Why are you doing this to us, systemd???

    [–] subignition@fedia.io 12 points 4 weeks ago

    That's actually really cool!

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