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[-] QuizzaciousOtter@lemm.ee 5 points 12 hours ago

While it's not nearly as customizable as an Ubuntu kernel, it's still easy to make your GrapheneOS look and feel exactly how you want it to, within reason.

WTF is it supposed to mean?

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago

Tried to switch to graphene for a bit. Way too many apps don't work in it.

[-] JoyfulCodingGuy@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

But out of curiosity what apps didn't work for you that were deal breakers?

[-] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

Could you elaborate? I've switched just to check it out and never moved back.

[-] TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago
[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Oh. I tried a bit before giving up. But lack of compatibility plus the insanely unreliable pixel battery just made me switch back to iPhone.

Thank you for the link though.

[-] soFanzy@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago

I love graphene as much as the next guy, but this article is pretty terrible. Badly researched, just spitting out talking points that are either flat out wrong, not the point of graphene or just scratching the surface. Look up the graphene homepage, if you actually want useful info.

[-] Muffi@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago

I would love to make the switch, but I am certain that absolutely zero of my government mandated apps will run on this thing.

[-] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 0 points 13 hours ago

My government ID app works fine. Maybe try it first?

[-] Dop@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

WTF do you mean "gvt mandated apps" !?!

[-] Muffi@programming.dev 12 points 20 hours ago

Mandated is the wrong word. "Required for absolutely everything" is more precise. In Denmark you need an app called "MitID" to do any kind of digital verification. You can't do online purchases, banking or digital bureaucracy without it.

[-] Dop@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Well sorry to hear that, it sounds like a special kind of hell.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

It's not really. Much better then US' lack of any one consistent system (or even lack of electronic option) and random OTP generators. But makes switching phone OS feel like a pretty big risk.

[-] Dop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I mean it may be pretty well done and thus 'safe' (curious if said app is open source?), but it sounds like you, as an individual, are tracked for most of your activities. Is cash still a mainstream option for payment?

Also, it's probably a costly stretch and really depends on your threat model, but could still have a phone with said app for any activity that requires it, and another one running GOS for a more private use.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

You can still use cash. It's just for electronic payments and ID verification. Though cash is exceedingly rare.

A unified ID system just means you use the same login details for each government agency (tax office, dmv, healthcare, etc...) Instead of a different system for each. It's also a stand in for a physical signature. It also ensures your data is consistent through the entire government as it's the same database.

I think it's significantly more secure for the individual than in the US and, as far as tracking, it's not like the US' insecure identity verification systems make it more difficult to track you. The US makes it easier for others to steal you're identity, and for you to get screwed because an employee misread your name on a net form they have to manually copy into their cobal database or whatever.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 14 hours ago

How do people who don't have smartphones do it? Is there some harder roundabout way?

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

You can use a keychain OTP generator (in Norway). I have no clue how it generates verifiable codes. The phone app is more convenient, and to the point at hand, actually connected to the internet/NFC. In any case it's factor 1 in a 2FA (And then some), so the same way any 2FA would work.

[-] abrahambelch@programming.dev 19 points 1 day ago

It Feels Almost Like Android... But It Isn't

So what is it?

I think what they attribute to that "android feel", is google spying on them at every turn.

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Most important thing for some people: the battery of the pixel sucks balls

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I've almost never had an issue. Like ever, unless I forget to set my phone on a charger when I went to bed. And even then, it would just be in the single digits by the end of the second night.

I think I've had my phone die on me twice since I've had it (Pixel 6 Pro).

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

I have an Oukitel and it uses 10% per day with medium usage. GPS and some video calling uses 20% on a day. Before that I used another Oukitel that only had a 720p screen. I could go for 20+ days on a single charge with not much usage.

These 1 charge per day devices are horrendous.

It's ok if you don't travel a lot, or always go home. But I tend to travel and be gone for the weekends.

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Great. I don't need that. That's not even close to a selling point.

I guess if I needed to hike without a power source for a week, it would be.

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 hours ago

For "some people" it is a big selling point. Which was how I worded my post.

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I disagree. I think that claiming something "sucks balls" because it will only last two days of normal use before dying, if you don't charge it all all, is absolutely ludicrous.

If I just text and leave my screen dim, I could get a whole week out of my phone. But that's not why I got a smart phone. I got a smart phone so I could use it, not see how long I could get the battery to last.

[-] QuizzaciousOtter@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Do you mean that it's worse on GrapheneOS in comparison to stock?

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

I think only their way of emulating play store apps is heavy on the battery. But I could be mistaken.

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

As a GrapheneOS user, I approve this message.

[-] lightscription@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, Tinder doesn't work and that is helpful to get in touch with the ladies. That app is too hell bent on location data which GOS handles more privately.

NFC should work, it is just scheduled to be deactivated after 3 months if not used for security reasons.

I think GOS is very user friendly and has many positive privacy and security enhancements. I would like to see if they can surpass sandboxed Google Play and officially support other repositories and updaters like Accrescent. Also, a standard way of securing traffic beyond encrypted DNS would be good such as a tor client like Orbot.

Looking into the Veilid ecosystem might also be a source for further development ideas.

[-] camr_on@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

just use grindr instead like I do

[-] PoorPocketsMcNewHold@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

GrapheneOS also made me give up my heterosexuality /j

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 20 hours ago

One group of people who ain't suffering from being lonely in today's America

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[-] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

you can setup seperate peofiles and jeep your GOS apps seperate from your open source app profile. that's what I do.

Also accresent is already a part if the GrapheneOS appstore.

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