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[–] harry315@feddit.de 198 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Python calculations run in the Microsoft Cloud

some functionality will be restricted without a paid license [in addition to a Microsoft365 subscription]

saved you from premature excitement

[–] Limeey@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is stupid, why can't I just point it at my interpreter? Oh, right, money. smh

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Think it'd actually be better than just importing your excel files to pandas or something though? If you've set up your own interpreter that doesn't seem out of your skillset.

[–] tetelestia@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

The ability to share the work with non technical co-workers could be huge. You might be able to do everything with pandas, but Jim in sales is too busy casting staplers in jello to learn how to set up a python environment

[–] thehatfox@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately I already read the headline, is there anywhere I can offload this now unnecessary excitement?

Python in Excel would be great, but nerfing it with some ridiculous cloud dependency is crazy. They could still paywall the feature if they really wanted while still running the Python interpretation locally.

I suppose we should be grateful they hadn’t also stuck ChatGPT on to it too so it could (badly) write the Python for you. Tech by buzzword will be the death of us I’m sure.

Python calculations run in the Microsoft Cloud

some functionality will be restricted without a paid license [in addition to a Microsoft365 subscription]

saved you from premature excitement

I knew when I saw the headline that this was going to be an example of MS doing something in a shitty way, not in an exciting way. Thank you for saving me a click.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Is basically their WEBSERVICE function but automatically because it's python and hardwired to their service.

Yeah this is hardly the announcement Microsoft thinks it is.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I think most companies do have a M365 subscription. If you are in a corporate environment, you will likely have access to the services. But it is dumb that you need to be internet connected and paying for a subscription service in order to integrate python visualizations. Still sucks that Microsoft like every other tech company is just about nickel and diming their customers into oblivion.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine paying to use Python

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

The fuck...

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is this going to make Excel better, or Python worse?

[–] Teppic@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

Neither very much. Python won't change. Excel when running in the cloud will become more powerful, but the workbooks using Python will also be incompatible with desktop versions of Excel. At least that's what I'm understanding so far.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

How would it affect Python? Did Linux gets worse as a result of WSL?

[–] Nolegjoe@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] kryptonicus@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

some functionality will be restricted without a paid license

I think that's why. But maybe I'm just overly cynical.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm guessing because it's a super hacky implementation versus a full and complete one, in addition to them paywalling it behind their bullshit M365 subscription.

[–] PoorlyWrittenPapyrus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

It only runs in this exact docker container

well we’re sure as shit not in the business of shipping docker containers

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

this would make a lot of sense to me. the windows/office365 code base has got to look so scary on the inside. i can’t think of any other reason why windows still has two different settings applications, with the newer one sometimes opening the older one. i also can’t imagine why teams/other office apps open popups (eg when joining meetings) that prompt you to sign in when you’re already signed in.

[–] Brkdncr@artemis.camp 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Who is the asshole that asked for this?

[–] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

The accountants that were promised they would be made programmers. There's dozens of them.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

People sick of writing VBA probably.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

20 years later...

That could be fun

[–] djquadratic@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

Runs on Microsoft cloud…. Sounds like it’ll be super versatile

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Python, the new macro virus.

[–] wmrch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There already is pyxll and xlwings which ~~likely~~ maybe does what you're looking for.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

But you can use it only if you set Internet Edgeplorer as your default browser.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Nah, fuck it, I’ll continue to do my shit in R.

[–] TDCN@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe I can finally learn excel now.

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

RIP my sanity 2 of the worst things together???????