"confuses" is different from "misspeaks" though…
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I know my bar has dropped a lot, but he spoke for an hour and fielded questions. He was pretty damn coherent, and knew what the fuck he was talking about defending his foreign policy decisions, etc. it kinda sucks all of that is boiled down to he said the wrong name.
I want him to step aside for another candidate. His "bad debate night" was scary as fuck. But this article is ridiculous.
he spoke confidently on a range of complex issues from the tax code and trade policy to Russia and the Israel-Hamas war.
BUT....
Were you and I watching the same presser? He had moments of brilliance, but his fumbles were apparent throughout the night.
I feel like people who said he had a good conference are either
- back to covering for him or
- have been caught in the "boiling frog" of Biden's long decline that they have a warped sense of what people expect from their president.
I watched maybe half of it. It was painful. He was mumbly. He misspoke. He lost his train of thought. His expressions and body language were stiff and unnatural. Occasionally he remembered some talking points and was able to regurgitate them without messing up too badly.
If the guy we saw last night was my waiter at a restaurant I would assume my food was going to arrive late, cold, and not be at all what I ordered.
He sounded punch drunk.
Don't disagree that he's embarrassingly old, but the gaffes were always part of the deal with Biden, going back to the 1990s.
Yeah but he's managed to make the conversation about his fitness to govern rather than Trumps. That's quite a feat.
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Yeah this is a bullshit headline. He said the wrong thing. Just way less concerning than what is implied.
Well the headline isn't factually wrong, and no, 99% of any one actually watched the debate.
The headline was possible because of Biden. And honestly, this wasn't even his worst mistake of the press conference.
That god-awful final answer.. It was basically him saying he's too arrogant to step down in time for us to get a candidate into place that can win. He's losing in the polling now and refuses to acknowledge it.
I had him slightly in the W column prior to that final answer. He went back into the L column with that final answer.
Another banger was "I have a higher approval rate in Israel than here"
Oh fuck I forgot about that one.
Yes. You are very popular in a country which has become a global pariah and is why you have effectively lost support entirely with any one under the age of 30.
It's almost like he's torpedoing his campaign on purpose. Optics wouldn't be as important if the US had mandatory voting, meaning even alienated voters would either vote Biden or Third Party more often than the Trump crowd, but he's killing voter interest in general.
2024 will be 2016 - 2.
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No the headline is correct.
Biden walked off the stage and apparently people were screaming Zelensky instead of Putin so then Biden walked back and corrected it.
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Run Harris. Run Newsom. Run Obama. Run Kennedy. Hell, run Gore.
There's so many options here. This is the DNC's election to lose.
This is the DNC's election to lose.
As it was in 2016. And lost it they did. The DNC never learns their lesson, it seems.
Like Michelle Obama?
I assume that's who they mean, since Barack has already had two terms and his kids aren't old enough.
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To call Zelenskyy “President Putin” at that critical moment was offensive and totally unacceptable.
Calling Kamala “Vice President Trump” is kind of hilarious though.
Both of these together paint a troubling picture. Why is Biden confusing people who are supposed to be his closest allies with those who are considered to be his bitter rivals? This was supposed to be his big press conference where he proves he’s still mentally fit to be president, and he totally blew it. Somebody get him outta there, Biden isn’t fit to be president and the sooner we can admit that and move on the better it will be for this country. The gaslighting in full denial of this is incredibly dangerous, and likely driven by whoever it is that’s actually in charge and wants to stay that way (all signs point to Jill Biden, who last I checked was not elected president.)
Apparently Biden has not had a full cabinet meeting since last year. These are the people who can invoke 25th amendment on him, and it’s looking extremely suspicious all of a sudden that he’s been avoiding them, and for such an insanely long period of time too!
For those of us who have had to support an elder family member through times of mental decline, the condition is extremely apparent now, and the administration can no longer hide it. Elders often resist or get angry when confronted about necessary changes, but it’s for their own good. In this case, it’s also so we can ward off a fascist takeover of the US. Come on dem leadership, it’s time to actually be the adults in the room and handle this.
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It's great that this will be how he is remembered. He deserves worse but it's something.
Thinkin about the Le Guin line about how every ruling class, every ruling ideology, has been destined to completely and utterly humiliate itself before it dies
I just don't understand the pro-Democrat party crowd's strategy. Why do they insist on keeping Biden as the Democrat candidate when that clown keeps nuking it's own odds of winning more and more everyday with his stupid shenanigans? If the peoples who keep berating everyone to vote for Biden see Trump as some sort of ultimate threat, why do they insist on using a candidate that even they admit is hated by most of his own voter base against Trump? That sound like a terrible strategy to me. Shouldn't they be mad at the Democrat party for taking such risk by insisting on a candidate so widely despised? Why don't they call for a candidate that is actually likely to beat Trump? Why do they keep berating the folks who have made it clear that they won't be voting for Biden under any circumstances when the over 60% of the Americans who don't participate in politics are right there?
Because Biden is the consensus candidate of party bosses: he's pro-genocide, militarist to the core and will not upset the bipartisan consensus. If he drops out, someone actually decent might get nominated. You can't have that.
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Yes, it was embarrassing. As soon as he said it I literally winced in pain. It was bad.
But. And of course there's a but. He even addressed later in the conference that him misspeaking should not over shadow the results he's getting. And he's getting results.
Man has stated he's had speech problems loong before he ran for president. Like, still a kid in school stuttering times. He sucks with names. That's an unfortunate fact. But why does that trump (pun intended) everything else?
Here's Biden in the 2008 debate against Sarah Palin. https://youtu.be/4Hs7CptPWI4?si=ygyXTtMIiNwfAPYa
There's no "stutter." He's nailing his talking points, stringing them together fluently. The Biden of today is unrecognizable.
At the same time, it's not like Kamala is going to beat Trump. And they won't let Bernie get the nomination.
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That's an unfortunate fact. But why does that trump (pun intended) everything else?
Like what? His genocide?
Because it's clearly more than a fucking speech impediment or random words he misspoke a few times. People have eyes. No amount of spin is going to change the reality that he's an elderly man whose brain is slowly fucking degenerating in real time in front of our eyes.
He was right about jobs going up. He was right about strengthening NATO. He was correct about the Border being more secure. He said he wants to fight greedy corporations and scummy land lords. How is all that over looked?
Use you're eyes to see what he's actually saying. There was 3 or 4 gaffs after a day of talking to other world leaders on major world events. His actions speak louder than words
Is he perfect, no. Absolutely not. Still better than not only the other guy but any other alternative placed in front of us.
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His speech impediment is bullshit. Where was it when he was Obama's VP? Where was it in the Senate?
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There are some situations that you just can't "spin" your way out of
Did he say that he's going to immediately turn the U.S. into a Theocratic Dictatorship? No?
Then I do not give a single fuck, and people that do are probably bots. Fuck off Billionaire newspaper.
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If I was trying to throw the election, I really can't think of what I'd be doing differently right now.
Putin can wax lyrical about Russian history going back millenia without notes. Biden can...
"...well...anyway..."
And I forgot my girlfriends name for a minute the other day at dinner. But I got top 5 people in state for one of my final year school subjects
Are you hiring a sales person or a president.
Some of the world's dumbest liers are excellent at talking. Often the people you should be listening to though aren't as good
The fact that Trump thinks his golf score is important to America should tell you everything you need to know
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