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https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.10002

Abstract (emphasis mine):

The concept of a 'Ballmer Peak' was first proposed in 2007, postulating that there exists a very specific blood alcohol content which confers superhuman programming ability. More generally, there is a commonly held belief among software engineers that coding is easier and more productive after a few drinks. Using the industry standard for assessment of coding ability, we conducted a search for such a peak and more generally investigated the effect of different amounts of alcohol on performance. We conclusively refute the existence of a specific peak with large magnitude, but with p < 0.001 find that there was a significant positive effect to a low amount of alcohol - slightly less than two drinks - on programming ability.

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[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago
[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 56 points 4 months ago

The concept of a 'Ballmer Peak' was first proposed in 2007

where do you thnk it was proposed?

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 40 points 4 months ago

I'd argue that this is for the XKCD, not the other way around.

Posted Oct. 1 2007.

"first proposed in 2007"

I wonder if Randall has seen this?

[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Lol that is Fig 1. In the paper :)

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

The Inebriati strike again.

[-] katja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 months ago

I've found that the best way to utilize alcohol when programming is to code sober and comment drunk. It's a wonderful way to make commenting both fun to write and to read later.

I have tried coding under the influence, but I can't do it. Even small amounts of alcohol makes it really hard to do anything complex. But if it works for you, good on ya.

[-] Affidavit@aussie.zone 9 points 4 months ago

Also works for customer service. Have a ridiculously minor issue that really doesn't matter but still irks a small part of you and you're too much of a wimp to speak up about? Check your sent folder in the morning after a night of drinking.

Protip: support@company.com.

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[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 months ago
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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Knew a guy in university that looked like a young Prince Charles that would pop half a tab of LSD whenever he ran into an issue he couldn't solve. Somehow that worked.

This was in the late 90s early 00s, well before Randall made the comic about The Ballmer Peak

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Microdosing LSD is a common thing nowadays in the tech world. It definitely increases your creativity and mental energy, so it makes sense. Your friend was probably ahead of the curve. I'm not sure if the idea was as popular back then.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

The rest of use were tending towards macro dosing. He may have known about it, but he didn't really talk about it that much. Certainly wasn't encouraging other to try it.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Maybe his dose wasn't small enough to be considered micro. I'd wager half a tab would give a light trip instead of a full

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I dunno. I never took less than 2 tabs even my first time, cause less than that didn't seem to do anything as far as visuals went. Just made me feel twitchy

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 months ago

I once worked in IT for an MSP that kept beer on tap in the office for this exact reason. Techs were encouraged to have a beer or two when stumped on an issue. It worked surprisingly well.

This did result in a few years of struggling with alcohol issues tho.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 19 points 4 months ago

#1544 - I can no longer code without drinking at least 3 glasses of beer, am I becoming an alcoholic? - [Duplicate] [Won't fix]

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I absolutely know this is case with my writing. Really helps you enter a flow state. Not to be trifled with, Mitchell and Webb did a sketch on it actually and they also went with "just under two drinks".

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[-] gareppa@programming.dev 16 points 4 months ago
[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Welcome to the Knights Tipplar.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

I came to post this, but I’m happier to see that it’s already here!

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

Alcohol is considered a performance-enhancing drug in darts.

For programming, it works the same way as playing music: your focus narrows. Your brain can't do other stuff, either because it's busy moving your neck in time with Meshuggah, or because it's been lightly poisoned by delicious ethanol.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

The idea that drinking helps has been around a lot longer than 2007. Since basically the discovery of alcohol. Yes, it can help with nerves a little bit, but none of your skills are improved, and most are impaired.

[-] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 9 points 4 months ago

Maybe it depends upon the person.
I have difficulty programming properly while listening to music so maybe I'd find it hard to do so with alcohol too.

In my case, it's probably because I tend to keep as much of the context as possible into my current memory, which gets reduced if I'm distracted by sounds (whether music or noise). The ADHD Relief music tracks tend to work well though, since they aren't very distracting and help get rid of other peoples' noise.

[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

In my experience I can write more code after a few drinks. However I usually find that the code is of low quality when I check it the next day…

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[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

This also works for pool. Don't ask me how I know.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I have written brilliant code while drunk that I didn't understand the next day. I doubt I could have even solved the problem sober.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago

I cannot code unless sober from all stimulants except coffee.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

Alcohol is not a stimulant.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

Fine, depressant or stimulant.

[-] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

Depressant or stimulant (except that one stimulant)

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

I think this may be true for many things.

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[-] hannes3120@feddit.de 6 points 4 months ago

Surely that's work worthy of an IG Nobel prize?

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

This applies to a lot of physical activities as well. I have a friend who's a really good bowler, and every one of his 300 games (perfect score for you non-bowlers) has been when he's had exactly 2 drinks. He can't do it with less because he gets too nervous - and more means he gets too sloppy and loses his edge.

We joke and call beer "bowling juice".

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I've also found another peak somewhere after 6, I lost count. I couldn't stand straight but I went like 34 kills to 6 deaths in a vr shooter.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

The Unity office in Bellevue used to have beer on tap in the cafeteria. Idk if it still does what with all the fuckery going on... Maybe one day I'll actually go into the office and I can report back

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

If you walk around Microsoft's office buildings, you'll see several people's personal offices with full bars in them.

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[-] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I tried coding while 420 once. Could not think straight.

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 4 points 4 months ago

Use your time travel abilities more wisely friend.

[-] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

I can imagine being that old would make it difficult to think straight, tbh. What's your secret?

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